Am 15.06.22 um 20:32 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 19:43, T.J. Mercier <tjmercier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:40 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:12:16AM +0200, Christian König wrote:
Am 25.05.22 um 23:05 schrieb T.J. Mercier:
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 7:38 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 08:13:24AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 05:08:05PM -0700, T.J. Mercier wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 12:21 PM Christian König
<christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Am 16.05.22 um 20:08 schrieb T.J. Mercier:
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 AM Christian König
<christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Am 16.05.22 um 19:13 schrieb T.J. Mercier:
Recently, we noticed an issue where a process went into direct reclaim
while holding the kernfs rw semaphore for sysfs in write (exclusive)
mode. This caused processes who were doing DMA-BUF exports and releases
to go into uninterruptible sleep since they needed to acquire the same
semaphore for the DMA-BUF sysfs entry creation/deletion. In order to avoid
blocking DMA-BUF export for an indeterminate amount of time while
another process is holding the sysfs rw semaphore in exclusive mode,
this patch moves the per-buffer sysfs file creation to the default work
queue. Note that this can lead to a short-term inaccuracy in the dmabuf
sysfs statistics, but this is a tradeoff to prevent the hot path from
being blocked. A work_struct is added to dma_buf to achieve this, but as
it is unioned with the kobject in the sysfs_entry, dma_buf does not
increase in size.
I'm still not very keen of this approach as it strongly feels like we
are working around shortcoming somewhere else.
My read of the thread for the last version is that we're running into
a situation where sysfs is getting used for something it wasn't
originally intended for, but we're also stuck with this sysfs
functionality for dmabufs.
Fixes: bdb8d06dfefd ("dmabuf: Add the capability to expose DMA-BUF stats in sysfs")
Originally-by: Hridya Valsaraju <hridya@xxxxxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: T.J. Mercier <tjmercier@xxxxxxxxxx>
---
See the originally submitted patch by Hridya Valsaraju here:
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v2 changes:
- Defer only sysfs creation instead of creation and teardown per
Christian König
- Use a work queue instead of a kthread for deferred work per
Christian König
---
drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-sysfs-stats.c | 56 ++++++++++++++++++++-------
include/linux/dma-buf.h | 14 ++++++-
2 files changed, 54 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-sysfs-stats.c b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-sysfs-stats.c
index 2bba0babcb62..67b0a298291c 100644
--- a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-sysfs-stats.c
+++ b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-sysfs-stats.c
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
#include <linux/printk.h>
#include <linux/slab.h>
#include <linux/sysfs.h>
+#include <linux/workqueue.h>
#include "dma-buf-sysfs-stats.h"
@@ -168,10 +169,46 @@ void dma_buf_uninit_sysfs_statistics(void)
kset_unregister(dma_buf_stats_kset);
}
+static void sysfs_add_workfn(struct work_struct *work)
+{
+ struct dma_buf_sysfs_entry *sysfs_entry =
+ container_of(work, struct dma_buf_sysfs_entry, sysfs_add_work);
+ struct dma_buf *dmabuf = sysfs_entry->dmabuf;
+
+ /*
+ * A dmabuf is ref-counted via its file member. If this handler holds the only
+ * reference to the dmabuf, there is no need for sysfs kobject creation. This is an
+ * optimization and a race; when the reference count drops to 1 immediately after
+ * this check it is not harmful as the sysfs entry will still get cleaned up in
+ * dma_buf_stats_teardown, which won't get called until the final dmabuf reference
+ * is released, and that can't happen until the end of this function.
+ */
+ if (file_count(dmabuf->file) > 1) {
Please completely drop that. I see absolutely no justification for this
additional complexity.
This case gets hit around 5% of the time in my testing so the else is
not a completely unused branch.
Well I can only repeat myself: This means that your userspace is
severely broken!
DMA-buf are meant to be long living objects
This patch addresses export *latency* regardless of how long-lived the
object is. Even a single, long-lived export will benefit from this
change if it would otherwise be blocked on adding an object to sysfs.
I think attempting to improve this latency still has merit.
Fixing the latency is nice, but as it's just pushing the needed work off
to another code path, it will take longer overall for the sysfs stuff to
be ready for userspace to see.
Perhaps we need to step back and understand what this code is supposed
to be doing. As I recall, it was created because some systems do not
allow debugfs anymore, and they wanted the debugging information that
the dmabuf code was exposing to debugfs on a "normal" system. Moving
that logic to sysfs made sense, but now I am wondering why we didn't see
these issues in the debugfs code previously?
Perhaps we should go just one step further and make a misc device node
for dmabug debugging information to be in and just have userspace
poll/read on the device node and we spit the info that used to be in
debugfs out through that? That way this only affects systems when they
want to read the information and not normal code paths? Yeah that's a
hack, but this whole thing feels overly complex now.
A bit late on this discussion, but just wanted to add my +1 that we should
either redesign the uapi, or fix the underlying latency issue in sysfs, or
whatever else is deemed the proper fix.
Making uapi interfaces async in ways that userspace can't discover is a
hack that we really shouldn't consider, at least for upstream. All kinds
of hilarious things might start to happen when an object exists, but not
consistently in all the places where it should be visible. There's a
reason sysfs has all these neat property groups so that absolutely
everything is added atomically. Doing stuff later on just because usually
no one notices that the illusion falls apart isn't great.
Unfortunately I don't have a clear idea here what would be the right
solution :-/ One idea perhaps: Should we dynamically enumerate the objects
when userspace does a readdir()? That's absolutely not how sysfs works,
but procfs works like that and there's discussions going around about
moving these optimizations to other kernfs implementations. At least there
was a recent lwn article on this:
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But that would be serious amounts of work I guess.
-Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
My team has been discussing this, and I think we're approaching a
consensus on a way forward that involves deprecating the existing
uapi.
I actually proposed a similar (but less elegant) idea to the readdir()
one. A new "dump_dmabuf_data" sysfs file that a user would write to,
which would cause a one-time creation of the per-buffer files. These
could be left around to become stale, or get cleaned up after first
read. However to me it seems impossible to correctly deal with
multiple simultaneous users with this technique. We're not currently
planning to pursue this.
Thanks for the link to the article. That on-demand creation sounds
like it would allow us to keep the existing structure and files for
DMA-buf, assuming there is not a similar lock contention issue when
adding a new node to the virtual tree. :)
I think that this on demand creation is even worse than the existing ideas,
but if you can get Greg to accept the required sysfs changes than that's at
least outside of my maintenance domain any more :)
I think doing it cleanly in sysfs without changing the current uapi sounds
pretty good. The hand-rolled "touch a magic file to force update all the
files into existence" sounds like a horror show to me :-) Plus I don't see
how you can actually avoid the locking pain with that since once the files
are created, you have to remove them synchronously again, plus you get to
deal with races on top (and likely some locking inversion fun on top).
-Daniel
Yes, lots of reasons not to pursue that angle. :)
So I asked Greg about modifying sysfs for this purpose, and he's quite
convincing that it's not the right way to approach this problem. So
that leaves deprecating the per-buffer statistics. It looks like we
can maintain the userspace functionality that depended on this by
replacing it with a single sysfs node for "dmabuf_total_size" along
with adding exporter information to procfs (via Kalesh's path patch
[1]). However there is a separate effort to account dmabufs from heaps
with cgroups [2], so if I'm able to make that work then we would not
need the new "dmabuf_total_size" file since this same information
could be obtained from the root cgroup instead. So I'd like to try
that first before falling back to adding a new dmabuf_total_size file.
Sounds like a plan.
Yep, totally agree.
Christian.
-Daniel
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