On 29.11.2012 11:09, Lucas Stach wrote: > We should aim for a clean split here. GEM handles are something which is > really specific to how DRM works and as such should be constructed by > tegradrm. nvhost should really just manage allocations/virtual address > space and provide something that is able to back all the GEM handle > operations. > > nvhost has really no reason at all to even know about GEM handles. If > you back a GEM object by a nvhost object you can just peel out the > nvhost handles from the GEM wrapper in the tegradrm submit ioctl handler > and queue the job to nvhost using it's native handles. > > This way you would also be able to construct different handles (like GEM > obj or V4L2 buffers) from the same backing nvhost object. Note that I'm > not sure how useful this would be, but it seems like a reasonable design > to me being able to do so. Ok, I must say that I got totally surprised by this and almost fell off the bench of the bus while commuting to home and reading this mail. On the technical side, what you wrote makes perfect sense and we'll go through this idea very carefully, so don't take me wrong. What surprised me was that we had always assumed that nvmap, the allocator we use in downstream kernel, would never be something that would be accepted upstream, so we haven't done work at all on cleaning it up and refactoring it for upstreaming, and cutting ties between nvhost and nvmap. We assumed that we need to provide something that fit into tegradrm and interacts with dma_buf and GEM, so we've written something small that fulfills this need. Now what you're suggesting is akin to getting a subset of nvmap into picture. In downstream kernel it already takes care of all memory management problems we've discussed wrt IOMMU (duplicate management, different memory architectures, etc). But, it has a lot more than what we need for now, so we'd need to decide if we go for importing parts of nvmap as nvhost allocator, or use the allocator in the patchset I sent earlier as basis. >> Yep, this would definitely simplify our IOMMU problem. But, I thought >> the canonical way of dealing with device memory is DMA API, and you're >> saying that we should just bypass it and call IOMMU directly? >> > This is true for all standard devices. But we should not consider this > as something set in stone and then building some crufty design around > it. If we can manage to make our design a lot cleaner by managing DMA > memory and the corresponding IOMMU address spaces for the host1x devices > ourselves, I think this is the way to go. All other graphics drivers in > the Linux kernel have to deal with their GTT in some way, we just happen > to do so by using a shared system IOMMU and not something that is > exclusive to the graphics devices. > > This is more work on the side of nvhost, but IMHO the benefits make it > look worthwhile. > What we should avoid is something that completely escapes the standard > ways of dealing with memory used in the Linux kernel, like using > carveout areas, but I think this is already consensus among us all. Makes perfect sense. I'll need to hash out a proposal on how to go about this. Terje _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
