Hi Laurent and Alan On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The main issue is that fbdev has been designed with the implicit assumption >> that an fbdev driver will always own the graphics memory it uses. All >> components in the stack, from drivers to applications, have been designed >> around that assumption. >> >> We could of course fix this, revamp the fbdev API and turn it into a modern >> graphics API, but I really wonder whether it would be worth it. DRM has been >> getting quite a lot of attention lately, especially from embedded developers >> and vendors, and the trend seems to me like the (Linux) world will gradually >> move from fbdev to DRM. >> >> Please feel free to disagree :-) > > I would disagree on the "main issue" bit. All the graphics cards have > their own formats and cache management rules. Simply sharing a buffer > doesn't work - which is why all of the extra gloop will be needed. This is exactly why I suggested adding an "owner" field. A driver could then check whether the buffer it is supposed to share/takeover is from a compatible (or even the same) driver/device. If it is not, it would simply reject using the buffer. Then again, if we have multiple devices that are incompatible, we are still unable to share the buffer. So this attempt would only be useful if we have tons of DisplayLink devices attached that all use the same driver, for example. Regarding DRM: In user-space I prefer DRM over fbdev. With the introduction of the dumb-buffers there isn't even the need to have mesa installed. However, fblog runs in kernel space and currently cannot use DRM as there is no in-kernel DRM API. I looked at drm-fops.c whether it is easy to create a very simple in-kernel API but then I dropped the idea as this might be too complex for a simple debugging-only driver. Another attempt would be making the drm-fb-helper more generic so we can use this layer as in-kernel DRM API. I had a deeper look into this this weekend and so as a summary I think all in-kernel graphics access is probably not worth optimizing it. fbcon is already working great and fblog is only used during boot and oopses/panics and can be restricted to a single device. I will have another look at the drivers in a few weeks but if you tell me that this is not easy to implement, I will probably have to let this idea go. Thanks David _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
