On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 09:39:45PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 06:09:00PM +0100, Kevin Brace wrote: > > Hi Sean, > > > > I do recall seeing you at XDC2017, I do not believe I spoke with you at > > the event. I will not name the name, but I had one developer who > > strongly asked me to convert to atomic mode setting, but I refused due > > to the state of the code at the time. > > That was at least me and Ben Skeggs. No point playing games, we're doing > open discussions here in the gpu subsystem. > > > Now, the KMS device support is mostly comparable to the existing UMS > > code path, so I can soon consider implementing universal plane and > > atomic mode setting. I am okay with the OpenChrome DRM not being > > activated initially (i.e., > > Displaying "(Experimental)" status when running menuconfig), but I do > > want it directly inserted into the DRM tree from day one after the code > > is pulled in. (i.e., not getting inserted into the "staging" tree) I > > believe the current code quality is good enough for this arrangement. > > Given how much cleaner the atomic helpers are, and how much simpler the > resulting drivers tend to be, I still think that's a bad idea. We do have > vboxvideo merged into staging, which still a non-atomic driver, but I > don't think that's helping anyone. It's definitely hurting refactoring to > have a driver outside of drm. And within drm imo a new non-atomic driver > doesn't make sense. Yeah, given the pain experienced with vboxvideo in the past half-year, I'd like to reverse my statement from June and vote against putting this in staging. We've waited this long for the openchrome stuff, we can probably wait a bit longer until it's at least basically atomic. Sean > > I've also never seen the code yet on dri-devel, so can't really give more > specific advise. > > Cheers, Daniel > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kevin Brace > > Brace Computer Laboratory blog > > https://bracecomputerlab.com > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 1:07 PM > > > From: "Sean Paul" <seanpaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: kevinbrace@xxxxxxx > > > Cc: "Dave Airlie" <airlied@xxxxxxxxx>, dri-devel <dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, openchrome-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [RFC] Getting OpenChrome DRM mainlined into Linux kernel tree > > > > > > I think I was one of those developers asking you to switch to atomic > > > (iirc, i encouraged you to start working on kms instead of ums). I > > > know this is a personal project that you've been working on in your > > > spare time (which is awesome!), so while I still encourage you to > > > convert the driver, I don't have a problem with you doing the > > > conversion in mainline. I think hiding under staging until the > > > conversion is complete is a pretty reasonable compromise. > > > > > > Sean > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dri-devel mailing list > > dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel > > -- > Daniel Vetter > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation > http://blog.ffwll.ch > _______________________________________________ > dri-devel mailing list > dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel -- Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel