Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH RFC 2/5] cgroup: Add mechanism to register vendor specific DRM devices

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Quoting Kasiviswanathan, Harish (2018-11-26 22:59:30)
> Thanks Tejun,Eric and Christian for your replies.
> 
> We want GPUs resource management to work seamlessly with containers and container orchestration. With the Intel / bpf based approach this is not possible. 
> 
> From your response we gather the following. GPU resources need to be abstracted. We will send a new proposal in same vein. Our current thinking is to start with a single abstracted resource and build a framework that can be expanded to include additional resources. We plan to start with “GPU cores”. We believe all GPUs have some concept of cores or compute unit.

I think a more abstract property "% of GPU (processing power)" might
be a more universal approach. One can then implement that through
subdividing the resources or timeslicing them, depending on the GPU
topology.

Leasing 1/8th, 1/4th or 1/2 of the GPU would probably be the most
applicable to cloud provider usecases, too. At least that's what I
see done for the CPUs today.

That combined with the "GPU memory usable" property should be a good
starting point to start subdividing the GPU resources for multiple
users.

Regards, Joonas

> 
> Your feedback is highly appreciated.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Harish
> 
> 
> 
> From: amd-gfx <amd-gfx-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Tejun Heo <tj@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 5:30 PM
> To: Ho, Kenny
> Cc: cgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; y2kenny@xxxxxxxxx; amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/5] cgroup: Add mechanism to register vendor specific DRM devices
>   
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:21:14PM +0000, Ho, Kenny wrote:
> > By this reply, are you suggesting that vendor specific resources
> > will never be acceptable to be managed under cgroup?  Let say a user
> 
> I wouldn't say never but whatever which gets included as a cgroup
> controller should have clearly defined resource abstractions and the
> control schemes around them including support for delegation.  AFAICS,
> gpu side still seems to have a long way to go (and it's not clear
> whether that's somewhere it will or needs to end up).
> 
> > want to have similar functionality as what cgroup is offering but to
> > manage vendor specific resources, what would you suggest as a
> > solution?  When you say keeping vendor specific resource regulation
> > inside drm or specific drivers, do you mean we should replicate the
> > cgroup infrastructure there or do you mean either drm or specific
> > driver should query existing hierarchy (such as device or perhaps
> > cpu) for the process organization information?
> > 
> > To put the questions in more concrete terms, let say a user wants to
> > expose certain part of a gpu to a particular cgroup similar to the
> > way selective cpu cores are exposed to a cgroup via cpuset, how
> > should we go about enabling such functionality?
> 
> Do what the intel driver or bpf is doing?  It's not difficult to hook
> into cgroup for identification purposes.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> tejun
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