Hi Maxime, On Wednesday 12 September 2018 02:12 PM, Maxime Ripard wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:12:31PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote: >> On Thursday 06 September 2018 08:26 PM, Maxime Ripard wrote: >>> Hi Kishon, >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 02:57:58PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote: >>>> On Wednesday 05 September 2018 02:46 PM, Maxime Ripard wrote: >>>>> The phy framework is only allowing to configure the power state of the PHY >>>>> using the init and power_on hooks, and their power_off and exit >>>>> counterparts. >>>>> >>>>> While it works for most, simple, PHYs supported so far, some more advanced >>>>> PHYs need some configuration depending on runtime parameters. These PHYs >>>>> have been supported by a number of means already, often by using ad-hoc >>>>> drivers in their consumer drivers. >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't work too well however, when a consumer device needs to deal >>>>> multiple PHYs, or when multiple consumers need to deal with the same PHY (a >>>>> DSI driver and a CSI driver for example). >>>>> >>>>> So we'll add a new interface, through two funtions, phy_validate and >>>>> phy_configure. The first one will allow to check that a current >>>>> configuration, for a given mode, is applicable. It will also allow the PHY >>>>> driver to tune the settings given as parameters as it sees fit. >>>>> >>>>> phy_configure will actually apply that configuration in the phy itself. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> --- >>>>> drivers/phy/phy-core.c | 62 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- >>>>> include/linux/phy/phy.h | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- >>>>> 2 files changed, 104 insertions(+) >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/phy/phy-core.c b/drivers/phy/phy-core.c >>>>> index 35fd38c5a4a1..6eaf655e370f 100644 >>>>> --- a/drivers/phy/phy-core.c >>>>> +++ b/drivers/phy/phy-core.c >>>>> @@ -408,6 +408,68 @@ int phy_calibrate(struct phy *phy) >>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_calibrate); >>>>> >>>>> /** >>>>> + * phy_configure() - Changes the phy parameters >>>>> + * @phy: the phy returned by phy_get() >>>>> + * @mode: phy_mode the configuration is applicable to. >>>> >>>> mode should be used if the same PHY can be configured in multiple modes. But >>>> with phy_set_mode() and phy_calibrate() we could achieve the same. >>> >>> So you would change the prototype to have a configuration applying >>> only to the current mode set previously through set_mode? >> >> yeah. >> With phy_configure, if the PHY is not in @mode, it should return an error? Or >> will it set the PHY to @mode and apply the configuration in @opts? > > I wanted to have it return an error either if it was configured in > another mode or if the mode was unsupported yes. > >>> Can we have PHY that operate in multiple modes at the same time? >> >> Not at the same time. But the same PHY can operate in multiple modes (For >> example we have PHYs that can be used either with PCIe or USB3) > > Ok, that makes sense. I guess we could rely on phy_set_mode then if > you prefer. > >>>>> + * @opts: New configuration to apply >>>> >>>> Should these configuration come from the consumer driver? >>> >>> Yes >> >> How does the consumer driver get these configurations? Is it from user space or >> dt associated with consumer device. > > It really depends on multiple factors (and I guess on what mode the > PHY is actually supposed to support), but in the case covered by this > serie, the info mostly come from multiple places: > - The resolutions supported by the panel > - The resolutions supported by the phy consumer (and its > integration, for things like the clock rates it can output) > - The resolutions and timings supported by the phy itself (once > again, the integration is mostly involved here since it really > only depends on which clock rates can be achieved) > - The timings boundaries that the specification has > - The resolution selected by the user > > So we'd have that information coming from multiple places: the > userspace would select the resolution, drivers would be able to filter > out unsupported resolutions, and the DT will provide the integration > details to help them do so. > > But I guess from an API standpoint, it really is expected to be > assembled by the phy consumer driver. > >>>>> +/** >>>>> + * phy_validate() - Checks the phy parameters >>>>> + * @phy: the phy returned by phy_get() >>>>> + * @mode: phy_mode the configuration is applicable to. >>>>> + * @opts: Configuration to check >>>>> + * >>>>> + * Used to check that the current set of parameters can be handled by >>>>> + * the phy. Implementations are free to tune the parameters passed as >>>>> + * arguments if needed by some implementation detail or >>>>> + * constraints. It will not change any actual configuration of the >>>>> + * PHY, so calling it as many times as deemed fit will have no side >>>>> + * effect. >>>>> + * >>>>> + * Returns: 0 if successful, an negative error code otherwise >>>>> + */ >>>>> +int phy_validate(struct phy *phy, enum phy_mode mode, >>>>> + union phy_configure_opts *opts) >>>> >>>> IIUC the consumer driver will pass configuration options (or PHY parameters) >>>> which will be validated by the PHY driver and in some cases the PHY driver can >>>> modify the configuration options? And these modified configuration options will >>>> again be given to phy_configure? >>>> >>>> Looks like it's a round about way of doing the same thing. >>> >>> Not really. The validate callback allows to check whether a particular >>> configuration would work, and try to negotiate a set of configurations >>> that both the consumer and the PHY could work with. >> >> Maybe the PHY should provide the list of supported features to the consumer >> driver and the consumer should select a supported feature? > > It's not really about the features it supports, but the boundaries it > might have on those features. For example, the same phy integrated in > two different SoCs will probably have some limit on the clock rate it > can output because of the phy design itself, but also because of the > clock that is fed into that phy, and that will be different from one > SoC to the other. > > This integration will prevent us to use some clock rates on the first > SoC, while the second one would be totally fine with it. If there's a clock that is fed to the PHY from the consumer, then the consumer driver should model a clock provider and the PHY can get a reference to it using clk_get(). Rockchip and Arasan eMMC PHYs has already used something like that. Assuming the PHY can get a reference to the clock provided by the consumer, what are the parameters we'll be able to get rid of in struct phy_configure_opts_mipi_dphy? I'm sorry but I'm not convinced a consumer driver should have all the details that are added in phy_configure_opts_mipi_dphy. > > Obviously, the consumer driver shouldn't care about the phy > integration details, especially since some of those consumer drivers > need to interact with multiple phy designs (or the same phy design can > be used by multiple consumers). > > So knowing that a feature is supported is really not enough. > > With MIPI-DPHY at least, the API is generic enough so that another > mode where the features would make sense could implement a feature > flag if that makes sense. > >>> For example, DRM requires this to filter out display modes (ie, >>> resolutions) that wouldn't be achievable by the PHY so that it's never >> >> Can't the consumer driver just tell the required resolution to the PHY and PHY >> figuring out all the parameters for the resolution or an error if that >> resolution cannot be supported? > > Not really either. With MIPI D-PHY, the phy is fed a clock that is > generated by the phy consumer, which might or might not be an exact > fit for the resolution. There's so many resolutions that in most case, > the clock factors don't allow you to have a perfect match. And > obviously, this imprecision should be taken into account by the PHY as > well. > > And then, there's also the matter than due to design constraints, some > consumers would have fixed timings that are not at the spec default > value, but still within the acceptable range. We need to communicate > that to the PHY. Here do you mean videomode timings? Thanks Kishon _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel