On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Sean Paul <sean@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote: >> > Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to >> > people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable >> > for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-) >> > >> > Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxx> >> > Cc: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <sean@xxxxxxxxxx> >> > --- >> > MAINTAINERS | 2 +- >> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >> > >> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS >> > index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644 >> > --- a/MAINTAINERS >> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS >> > @@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F: include/linux/vga* >> > DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES >> > M: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > M: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > -M: Sean Paul <seanpaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > +M: Sean Paul <sean@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Glorious domain :-) >> >> Aside: ffwll.ch has been running with dkim since a while, seems to work >> correctly. You just need non-strict dkim enforcement, which at least for >> gapps is the default. >> >> But even then Linus' gmail inbox throws my mails away every once in a >> while, so email clearly doesn't work. > > My (completely incorrect, i'm sure) understanding is that DKIM is fine, but > DMARC is the problem. > > It seems Mailman was altering some (or all) of my messages which caused DMARC > to fail. At the very least the "Prevent duplicate messages" setting in mailman > strips users cc from the headers. So if any one of the recipients has this > setting enabled, the headers are munged, DMARC fails, and emails go to spam. Hm tbh I didn't know about DMARC yet. Sounds like it just tells the recipient how your domain would like SPF/DKIM failures to be handled. One of these (if configured correctly) should survive mailing lists. I did crawl dri-devel a bit, and there's mails that passed through with full dmarc enforcement. So it's not impossible. But hey in practice it doesn't even work for gmail->gmail when the moon howling is too bad :-) -Daniel > >> >> </rant> >> >> Acked-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> > > Thanks, pushed to -misc-next-fixes > > Sean > >> > W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html >> > S: Maintained >> > T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc >> > -- >> > Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dri-devel mailing list >> > dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel >> >> -- >> Daniel Vetter >> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation >> http://blog.ffwll.ch > > -- > Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS > _______________________________________________ > dri-devel mailing list > dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel