Can someone provide a deeper explanation about exactly what this property represents please? Does this represent the range of YCbCr values _into_ a YCbCr-to-RGB conversion (in other words, the range of values in the framebuffer), or the expected output range from the conversion? This matters, because a "limited", (iow, eg, BT601 compliant YCbCr) framebuffer where the Y signal is between 16..235 being displayed on a full-range RGB output would need different conversion from needing a limited-range RGB output. If it is indeed the output, then why is this a property of the plane? Is that not a property of: (a) whether the plane is being blended or overlaid onto a graphics plane which uses full-range RGB (b) the properties of the output(s) to which the plane is being displayed. IOW, it seems that the output of the CSC is more to do with what's downstream of the plane than with the plane itself. For example, take this situation: plane 0 - graphics, full range RGB >-- CRTC --> HDMI sink only supporting plane 1 - video, limited range YUV limited range RGB In order to display the graphics correctly in that scenario, the HDMI output needs to compress the RGB 0-255 range down to 16..236 to be compliant. If the video is limited range, and the CSC produces a limited range RGB output, then plane 1 gets its range further compressed at the HDMI output, which surely is undesirable. It would surely be better, if it's not possible to map the range of plane 0 to limited range, to instead expand the YUV range and then recompress it at the HDMI output to match the capabilities of the attached source. It also seems logical that describing the range of the RGB plane would also be sane - if the application is limiting graphics RGB to 16..235, then you'd want the CSC output to do the same and there'd be no need for any range expansion or compression. I'd personally like drm_plane_create_color_properties() to allow creation of COLOR_ENCODING without COLOR_RANGE (iow, supported_ranges being zero) until COLOR_RANGE is better defined than it is at present. Thoughts? I'm bringing this up, because the hardware I have has a CSC that accepts BT601 and BT709 formats, controlled by a single bit. Another bit controls whether the CSC produces 0..255 output or 16..235 output. That is then blended/overlaid with the graphics plane (0..255) and sent to the output. Having a "limited range" YUV plane produce 16..235 range output makes it look low-contrast compared to the graphics, which is what would be expected - "16" is not black compared to the black of the graphics in the same way that "235" is not white compared to the graphics. -- RMK's Patch system: http://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 13.8Mbps down 630kbps up According to speedtest.net: 13Mbps down 490kbps up _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel