Re: [PATCH RFC 05/24] Revert "drm: Nerf the preclose callback for modern drivers"

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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 09:18:04AM +0800, Qiang Yu wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 4:31 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Qiang Yu <yuq825@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 09:04:17AM +0800, Qiang Yu wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:37 AM, Eric Anholt <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > Qiang Yu <yuq825@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> This reverts commit 45c3d213a400c952ab7119f394c5293bb6877e6b.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> lima driver need preclose to wait all task in the context
> >>>> >> created within closing file to finish before free all the
> >>>> >> buffer object. Otherwise pending tesk may fail and get
> >>>> >> noisy MMU fault message.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Move this wait to each buffer object free function can
> >>>> >> achieve the same result but some buffer object is shared
> >>>> >> with other file context, but we only want to wait the
> >>>> >> closing file context's tasks. So the implementation is
> >>>> >> not that straight forword compared to the preclose one.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You should just separate your MMU structures from drm_file, and have
> >>>> > drm_file and the jobs using it keep a reference on them.  This is what
> >>>> > I've done in V3D as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not the VM/MMU struct that causes this problem, it's each buffer
> >>>> object that gets freed before task is done (postclose is after buffer free).
> >>>> If you mean I should keep reference of all buffers for tasks, that's not
> >>>> as simple as just waiting task done before free buffers.
> >>>
> >>> Why can't you do that waiting in the postclose hook? If it's the lack of
> >>> reference-counting in your driver for gem bo, then I'd say you need to
> >>> roll out some reference counting. Relying on the implicit reference
> >>> provided by the core is kinda not so great (which was the reason I've
> >>> thrown out the preclose hook). There's also per-bo open/close hooks.
> >>
> >> It's possible to not use preclose, but the implementation is not as simple
> >> and straight forward as the preclose I think. There're two method I can
> >> think of:
> >> 1. do wait when free buffers callback unmap buffer from this process's
> >>     lima VM (wait buffer reservation object), this is fine and simple, but
> >>     there's case that this buffer is shared between two processes, so the
> >>     best way should be only waiting fences from this process, so we'd
> >>     better do some record for fences for a "perfect waiting"
> >> 2. keep a reference of involved buffers for a task, unreference it when
> >>     task done, also keep a reference of the buffer mapping in this process's
> >>     lima VM (this is more complicated to implement)
> >>
> >> But if there's a preclose, just wait all this process's task done, then
> >> unmap/free buffers, it's simple and straight forward. I'd like to hear if
> >> there's other better way for only use postclose.
> >
> > Refcount your buffers. Borrowing references from other places tends to
> > result in a maintenance headache with no end. So solution 2.
> 
> In current lima implementation, refcount involved buffer for task is done
> in user space. So kernel's task object don't keep that. User space
> driver is responsible not unmap/free buffer before task is complete. This
> works simple and fine except the case that user press Ctrl+C to terminate
> the application which will force to close drm fd. I really don't think adding
> buffer refcount for tasks in kernel just for this case is valuable because
> it has no benefits for normal case but some extra load.

If kernel correctness relies on refcounting you have a giantic security
problem. You need to fix that. Kernel _must_ assume that userspace is
evil, trying to pull it over the table.

Yes, you need refcounting.
-Daniel
> 
> Regards,
> Qiang
> 
> > -Daniel
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

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