Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/1] drm/xen-zcopy: Add Xen zero-copy helper DRM driver

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On 04/18/2018 01:55 PM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 01:39:35PM +0300, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
On 04/18/2018 01:18 PM, Paul Durrant wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/1] drm/xen-zcopy: Add Xen zero-copy
helper DRM driver

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:01:12AM +0300, Oleksandr Andrushchenko
wrote:
On 04/18/2018 10:35 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
After speaking with Oleksandr on IRC, I think the main usage of the
gntdev extension is to:

1. Create a dma-buf from a set of grant references.
2. Share dma-buf and get a list of grant references.

I think this set of operations could be broken into:

1.1 Map grant references into user-space using the gntdev.
1.2 Create a dma-buf out of a set of user-space virtual addresses.

2.1 Map a dma-buf into user-space.
2.2 Get grefs out of the user-space addresses where the dma-buf is
      mapped.

So it seems like what's actually missing is a way to:

   - Create a dma-buf from a list of user-space virtual addresses.
   - Allow to map a dma-buf into user-space, so it can then be used with
     the gntdev.

I think this is generic enough that it could be implemented by a
device not tied to Xen. AFAICT the hyper_dma guys also wanted
something similar to this.
Ok, so just to summarize, xen-zcopy/hyper-dmabuf as they are now,
are no go from your POV?
My opinion is that there seems to be a more generic way to implement
this, and thus I would prefer that one.

Instead, we have to make all that fancy stuff
with VAs <-> device-X and have that device-X driver live out of drivers/xen
as it is not a Xen specific driver?
That would be my preference if feasible, simply because it can be
reused by other use-cases that need to create dma-bufs in user-space.
There is a use-case I have: a display unit on my target has a DMA
controller which can't do scatter-gather, e.g. it only expects a
single starting address of the buffer.
In order to create a dma-buf from grefs in this case
I allocate memory with dma_alloc_xxx and then balloon pages of the
buffer and finally map grefs onto this DMA buffer.
This way I can give this shared buffer to the display unit as its bus
addresses are contiguous.

With the proposed solution (gntdev + device-X) I won't be able to achieve this,
as I have no control over from where gntdev/balloon drivers get the pages
(even more, those can easily be out of DMA address space of the display unit).

Thus, even if implemented, I can't use this approach.

In any case I just knew about dma-bufs this morning, there might be
things that I'm missing.

Roger.

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