On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Apr 2018, Lucas Stach <dev@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> My _feeling_ is that the review economy in drm-misc, which gets DRM the >> bragging rights of 80% reviewed patches, has already lowered the weight >> associated with those reviews, as most of them are really shallow. This >> might be okay with you and I'm certainly not trying to change the way >> drm-misc is handled, but I doubt that this is the universal gold >> standard which should be applied to everything. > > I think you need to substantiate your claims about rubber stamping > reviews. I'm not seeing that. And I do pay attention to the reviews that > happen on i915 and drm display parts, kind of review-of-review. I'm > personally pretty diligent about review, and I'm honestly *more* ashamed > of patches I reviewed regressing than patches I wrote. Looking around, I > don't think I'm alone. Yeah, a thing to keep in mind is that we've had this "forced review" in drm-intel since well over 5 years (so much longer than commit rights). And the same rules apply to any core drm patches that get merged into drm-misc. Similar for amd drivers, and Dave Airlie as subsystem maintainer. Small drivers are explictly excempt from strict review requirements in drm-misc, there we just want an Acked-by: to signal a 2nd person at least looked at the patch. But even there a lot of the patches got through full review scrutinies, with a bunch of revisions until the patch is right. And all this has defacto run on a "you review mine, I review yours" review economy all this time. That amounts to 50+ people, some who've done this for 5+ years, you accused of doing rubber stamp reviews. I agree with Jani that this deserves some more concrete data than your personal feelings. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel