Re: [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev()

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Am 28.03.2018 um 21:53 schrieb Logan Gunthorpe:

On 28/03/18 01:44 PM, Christian König wrote:
Well, isn't that exactly what dma_map_resource() is good for? As far as
I can see it makes sure IOMMU is aware of the access route and
translates a CPU address into a PCI Bus address.
I'm using that with the AMD IOMMU driver and at least there it works
perfectly fine.
Yes, it would be nice, but no arch has implemented this yet. We are just
lucky in the x86 case because that arch is simple and doesn't need to do
anything for P2P (partially due to the Bus and CPU addresses being the
same). But in the general case, you can't rely on it.

Well, that an arch hasn't implemented it doesn't mean that we don't have the right interface to do it.

Yeah, but not for ours. See if you want to do real peer 2 peer you need
to keep both the operation as well as the direction into account.
Not sure what you are saying here... I'm pretty sure we are doing "real"
peer 2 peer...

For example when you can do writes between A and B that doesn't mean
that writes between B and A work. And reads are generally less likely to
work than writes. etc...
If both devices are behind a switch then the PCI spec guarantees that A
can both read and write B and vice versa.
Sorry to say that, but I know a whole bunch of PCI devices which
horrible ignores that.
Can you elaborate? As far as the device is concerned it shouldn't know
whether a request comes from a peer or from the host. If it does do
crazy stuff like that it's well out of spec. It's up to the switch (or
root complex if good support exists) to route the request to the device
and it's the root complex that tends to be what drops the load requests
which causes the asymmetries.

Devices integrated in the CPU usually only "claim" to be PCIe devices. In reality their memory request path go directly through the integrated north bridge. The reason for this is simple better throughput/latency.

That is hidden from the software, for example the BIOS just allocates address space for the BARs as if it's a normal PCIe device.

The only crux is when you then do peer2peer your request simply go into nirvana and are not handled by anything because the BARs are only visible from the CPU side of the northbridge.

Regards,
Christian.


Logan
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