Re: [PATCH v5] drm/omap: plane zpos/zorder management improvements

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Hi Daniel,

On Thursday, 11 January 2018 10:19:50 EET Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 06:28:51PM +0200, Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
> > On 01/09/2018 04:40 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 04:18:48PM +0200, Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
> >>> On 2018-01-09 14:44, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>>>> Changes since v4:
> >>>>> - further simplify the zpos checking by using a mask and a single
> >>>>>   loop
> >>>>> - Commit message has been extended
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Changes since v3:
> >>>>> - Use drm_plane_index() instead of storing the same index wothin
> >>>>>   omap_plane struct
> >>>>> - Optimize the zpos validation loop so we avoid extra checks.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Changes since v2:
> >>>>> - The check for duplicate zpos is moved to omap_crtc
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Changes since v1:
> >>>>> - Dropped the zpos normalization related patches
> >>>>> - New patch based on the discussion, see commit message.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sorry for jumping in late to the party, but except when you have a
> >>>> really, really, really good reason for why omapdrm has to not normalize
> >>>> zpos like the other drivers do in this case, then I think we should be
> >>>> consistent.
> >>>> 
> >>>> An inconsistent kms uapi is a lot worse than an uapi with some design
> >>>> issues: The latter just means we eventually need v2, the former
> >>>> guarantees
> >>>> we need v2.
> >>> 
> >>> Even if the v2 contains the "drm/blend: Account also the primary plane
> >>> of the crtc for normalized_zpos"?
> >>> It is to ensure that the crtc->primary plane is going to have zpos = 0,
> >>> even if it's plane_id is higher.
> >> 
> >> It's a bit a hack, but imo makes sense, given where we are with uapi.>
> >> Except it sounds like we have more bikesheds going on about what
> >> exactly zpos is supposed to do.
> > 
> > As https://dri.freedesktop.org/docs/drm/gpu/drm-kms.html have this to say
> > about zpos:
> > "priority of the given plane on crtc (optional) Note that multiple active
> > planes on the same crtc can have an identical zpos value. The rule to
> > solving the conflict is to compare the plane object IDs; the plane with a
> > higher ID must be stacked on top of a plane with a lower ID."
> > 
> > It implies that the driver should not try to be clever about the
> > normalization of the zpos. Even if it make sense.
> >
> > Considering only crtc->primary is a bit flowed anyway as for the sake of
> > completeness the crtc->cursor plane should have been kept on top at the
> > same time.
> > 
> >>> As it was discussed we have use case when we have two (or more) crtcs,
> >>> each with one plane (they are the primary planes for the given crtc)
> >>> and user moves one of the plane from one crtc to another, where it is no
> >>> longer the primary plane, but still holds zpos = 0.
> >>> 
> >>> In this case we prefer to keep the actual primary plane of the crtc at
> >>> the bottom and stack the new planes on top.
> >> 
> >> Yeah that all sounds reasonable. Or we state that userspace in that case
> >> better readjust zpos to make it non-ambiguous. Or something else.
> >> 
> >> Just something that's consistent across drivers. I'm totally fine with
> >> "organically grown uapi with lots of cruds and hacks".
> > 
> > I'm fine with using the current normalization as it is and refer to the
> > UAPI doc if user space is not complying with it.
> > But then, should the normalization be forced in the core for all drivers
> > to get consistency?
> 
> We had that, but then removed it again for reasons I no longer entirely
> understand. I guess we can keep it as-is for now, or if you want you can
> float a patch to move it back into the main helpers.

The problem is that zpos normalization requires accessing the state of all 
enabled planes for a CRTC in order to compute (and store) the normalized zpos 
values. This thus forces all planes to be added to the commit state, even when 
the commit doesn't touch the zpos property. I assume this caused issues 
(possibly performance issues) in drivers that then performed hardware setup of 
all planes as a result.

It could be possible to implement zpos normalization in a more efficient way, 
or to make it possible for driver to optimize hardware setup when plane states 
have not changed. For instance (thinking out loud) we could add a bit to the 
plane state to tell whether anything has changed, drivers could then easily 
skip those planes.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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