On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:14:47 AM CET Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2018, Chris Wilson <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Quoting Rodrigo Vivi (2018-01-02 19:12:18)
> >
> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 10:34:54PM +0000, Stefan Brüns wrote:
> >> > + edid = drm_get_edid(connector, i2c);
> >> > +
> >> > + if (!edid && !intel_gmbus_is_forced_bit(i2c)) {
> >> > + DRM_DEBUG_KMS("HDMI GMBUS EDID read failed, retry using
> >> > GPIO bit-banging\n"); + intel_gmbus_force_bit(i2c, true);
> >> > + edid = drm_get_edid(connector, i2c);
> >> > + intel_gmbus_force_bit(i2c, false);
> >> > + }
> >>
> >> Approach seems fine for this case.
> >> I just wonder what would be the risks of forcing this bit and edid read
> >> when nothing is present on the other end?>
> > Should be no more risky than using GMBUS as the bit-banging is the
> > underlying HW protocol; it should just be adding an extra delay to
> > the disconnected probe. Offset against the chance that it fixes
> > detection of borderline devices.
> >
> > I would say that given the explanation above, the question is why not
> > apply it universally? (Bonus points for including the explanation as
> > comments.)
>
> I'm wondering, is gmbus too fast for the adapters, does gmbus generally
> have different timing for the ack/nak as described in the commit message
> than bit banging, or are the adapters just plain buggy? Do we have any
> control over gmbus timings (don't have the time to peruse the bpsec just
> now)?
I have seen two different behaviours, one on the ~2009 GM965, the other on the
~2013 Haswell. The Haswell provides a 250..500ns hold time, the other does
not.
There is a flag in the GMBUS0 register, GMBUS_HOLD_EXT, "300ns hold time, rsvd
on Pineview". The driver does not set this flag. Possibly it is always set/
implied on the Haswell (which is post-Pineview), and should be set for
anything older than Pineview.
There is another odd fact with the GM965, according to the register setting it
should run at 100 kBit/s, but it only runs at 30 kBit/s. The Haswell runs at
100 kBit/s, as specified. As there are also idle periods ever 8 bytes, the
EDID read takes 270ms before it fails.
The bitbanging code, running at 45 kBit/s (2 * 20us per clock cycle plus
overhead) on the other hand just needs 58 ms, but keeps one core busy
(udelay).
Unfortunately I currently have no older system than the Haswell available, so
I can not check if the GMBUS_HOLD_EXT flag has any effect.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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