2017년 11월 13일 23:28에 Marek Szyprowski 이(가) 쓴 글: > Hi Inki, > > On 2017-11-13 02:24, Inki Dae wrote: >> Hi Marek, >> >> 2017년 11월 10일 16:35에 Marek Szyprowski 이(가) 쓴 글: >>> Dear Inki, >>> >>> On 2017-11-10 04:04, Inki Dae wrote: >>>> 2017년 11월 01일 01:28에 Marek Szyprowski 이(가) 쓴 글: >>>>> When no IOMMU is available, all GEM buffers allocated by Exynos DRM driver >>>>> are contiguous, because of the underlying dma_alloc_attrs() function >>>>> provides only such buffers. In such case it makes no sense to keep >>>> What if user disabled CMA support? In this case, it guarantees also to allocate physically contiguous memory? >>>> I think it depends on CMA support so wouldn't be true. >>> dma_alloc_attrs() always guarantees the contiguity of the allocated memory >>> in DMA address space. When NOIOMMU is available, this mean that the allocated >>> buffer is contiguous in the physical memory. When CMA is disabled, >>> dma_alloc_attrs() uses alloc_pages() allocator. The drawback of alloc_pages() >>> is that it easily fails if physical memory is fragmented and it cannot >>> allocate memory larger than MAX_ORDER (4MiB in case of ARM32bit). >> You are right. Without IOMMU suppot alloc_pages always tryies to allocate contiguous memory, >> order = get_order(size); >> page = alloc_pages(..., order); >> if (!page) >> return NULL; >> ... > > Right > >>>> Real problem I think is that user don't know whether the gem buffer allocated with CONTIG or NONCONTIG flag can be used as a SCANOUT buffer. >>>> So user can request a page flip with NONCONTIG buffer to kernel which doesn't support IOMMU. >>>> >>>> And another is that user may want to use NONCONTIG buffer for another purpose, not scanout. >>>> So if we enforce on using CONTIG buffer on kernel without IOMMU support, then it wouldn't be really what user intended. >>> When IOMMU support is disabled, ANY buffer allocated with dma_alloc_attrs() >>> will be contiguous, so I see no point propagating incorrect flag for it. >>> >>> The only way to create a NONCONTIG buffer with IOMMU disabled is to import >>> it from other driver and this path is already handled correctly. >>> >>>> My idea is to provide a new flag - i.e., EXYNOS_BO_SCANOUT - which can allocate a buffer with a different allocation type - CONTIG or NONCONTIG - according to IOMMU support. >>>> And any page flip request with NONCONTIG buffer to kernel without IOMMU support should fail and it has to return a error with a proper error message. >>> I don't think that we need it. With the proposed patch the same userspace will >>> work fine in both cases IOMMU enabled and disabled, even if it allocate GEM >>> with NONCONTIG flag. We can assume that CONTIG is a special case of NONCONTIG >>> then. >> The problem is really not whether user space will work fine or not but is that this may be not what user space wanted. >> I.e., user space expects the allocated buffer is NONCONTIG buffer because user space requested NONCONTIG buffer but kernel internally, this is changed to CONTIG buffer. > > What's the problem when kernel allocated contiguous buffer but user > requested non-contiguous? Contiguous is a subclass of non-contiguous > in general. There is no driver nor scenario which will not work because > of such change (any code for handing n-segments should be fine with only > 1 segment). In some conditions, by luck, kernel might allocate > a contiguous buffer even with IOMMU enabled. When we know that the > buffer is contiguous, then flag it as such. I'd like to say what I experienced before here. I'd ever modified in-house kernel with similar issue that with IOMMU sometimes page fault happended. So tempararily I always made gem allocation request from user space to allocate CONTIG buffer and it worked well without page fault. Several days ago, a Platform guy reported one issue that gem allocation request failed even through it has free memory enough. The issus was as you guess fragementation issue and I talked to him memory fragmentation happended. However, that guy didn't understand why memory fragementation happended because he definitely requested NONCONTIG buffer allocation. Thus, if I provided a some hit - gem allocation way is changed to CONTIG due to some reason - to user space then he could understand the fragmentation issue without contacting me. This patch could fix the X Server issue but the X Server never know that the allocated buffer is contiguous because you changed the allocation type witout user's knowledge. Thanks, Inki Dae > >> So you could provide some information - maybe warning message?? - to user space the buffer type is changed to CONTIG buffer due to NO IOMMU support. > > I don't think this needs a warning. I just think that when we know that > the allocated buffer IS contiguous there is no point flagging it as > non-contiguous and fail a few calls later although the driver allocated > the contiguous buffer in fact. That's all. > >> Regarding the buffer type Exynos DRM has, I'm not sure that providing CONTIG and NONCONTIG buffer types to user space is reasonable because I think such buffer types - physically contiguous or non contiguous - should be transparent to user space. >> And I looked into other ARM DRM drivers - omap and msm provides SCANOUT buffer type, tegra and rockchip have no such buffer types (contiguous or non-contiguous). >> >> This is also a thing I felt while working on kernel in collaborating with Platform guys - we made user spaces to care about the memory allocation way. >> >> I wonder why you say SCANOUT type is incorrect flag. > > I'm not against adding SCANOUT flag. It is a good idea in general, > especially if the driver can simply select which set of flags will > be best for such use case on the given hardware (IOMMU is practically > always used on newer Exynos SoCs, IOMMU has enough TLB cache and > handling of non-contiguous buffers is cheap there). > > I would only separate it from fixing the current code. > > Best regards _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
