Re: drm: Why shmem?

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On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:40:04AM -0700, Eric Anholt wrote:
> Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Noralf Trønnes <noralf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Currently I'm using the cma library with tinydrm because it was so
> >> simple to use even though I have to work around the fact that reads are
> >> uncached. A bigger problem that I have become aware of, is that it
> >> restricts the dma buffers it can import since they have to be continous.
> >>
> >> So I looked to udl and it uses shmem. Fine, let's make a shmem gem
> >> library similar to the cma library.
> >>
> >> Now I have done so and have started to think about the DOC: section,
> >> explaining what the library does. And I'm stuck, what's the benefit of
> >> using shmem compared to just using alloc_page()?
> >
> > Gives you swapping (and eventually maybe even migration) since there's
> > a real filesystem behind it. Atm this only works if you register a
> > shrinker callback, which for display drivers is a bit overkill. See
> > i915 or msm for examples (or ttm, if you want an entire fancy
> > framework), and git grep shrinker -- drivers/gpu.
> 
> The shrinker is only needed if you need some impetus to unbind objects
> from your page tables, right?  If you're just binding the pages for the
> moment that you're doing SPI transfers to the display, then in the
> remaining time it could be swapped out, right?

Yup, and for SPI the setup overhead shouldn't matter. But everyone else
probably wants to cache mappings and page lists, and that means some kind
of shrinker to drop them when needed.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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