On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 02-05-2017 09:48, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:48:34AM +0100, Jose Abreu wrote: >>> Some crtc's may have restrictions in the mode they can display. In >>> this patch a new callback (crtc->mode_valid()) is introduced that >>> is called at the same stage of connector->mode_valid() callback. >>> >>> This shall be implemented if the crtc has some sort of restriction >>> so that we don't probe modes that will fail in the commit() stage. >>> For example: A given crtc may be responsible to set a clock value. >>> If the clock can not produce all the values for the available >>> modes then this callback can be used to restrict the number of >>> probbed modes to only the ones that can be displayed. >>> >>> If the crtc does not implement the callback then the behaviour will >>> remain the same. Also, for a given set of crtcs that can be bound to >>> the connector, if at least one can display the mode then the mode >>> will be probbed. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Jose Abreu <joabreu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Carlos Palminha <palminha@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Alexey Brodkin <abrodkin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxx> >> Not sure this is useful, since you still have to duplicate the exact same >> check into your ->mode_fixup hook. That seems to make things even more >> confusing. > > Yeah, in arcpgu I had to duplicate the code in ->atomic_check. > >> >> Also this doesn't update the various kerneldoc comments. For the existing >> hooks. Since this topic causes so much confusion, I don't think a >> half-solution will help, but has some good potential to make things worse. > > I only documented the callback in drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h. > > Despite all of this, I think it doesn't makes sense delivering > modes to userspace which can never be used. > > This is really annoying in arcpgu. Imagine: I try to use mpv to > play a video, the full set of modes from EDID were probed so if I > just start mpv it will pick the native mode of the TV instead of > the one that is supported, so mpv will fail to play. I know the > value of clock which will work (so I know what mode shall be > used), but a normal user which is not aware of the HW will have > to cycle through the list of modes and try them all until it hits > one that works. Its really boring. > > For the modes that user specifies manually there is nothing we > can do, but we should not trick users into thinking that a given > mode is supported when it will always fail at commit. Yes, you are supposed to filter these out in ->mode_valid. But my stance is that only adding a half-baked support for a new callback to the core isn't going to make life easier for drivers, it will just add to the confusion. There's already piles of docs for both @mode_valid and @mode_fixup hooks explaining this, I don't want to make the documentation even more complex. And half-baked crtc checking is _much_ easier to implement in the driver directly (e.g. i915 checks for crtc constraints since forever, as do the other big x86 drivers). So all taken together, if we add a ->mode_valid to crtcs, then imo we should do it right and actually make life easier for drivers. A good proof would be if your patch would allow us to drop a lot of the lenghty language from the @mode_valid hooks. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel