On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 12:06:26PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Fr, 2017-04-07 at 11:45 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 10:29:00AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Hmm. Maybe it's still possible to salvage something by redefining the > > > > BIG_ENDIAN format bit to mean the "the other endianness". Ugly but it > > > > might still result in something usable. > > > > > > Also at least for the virtual machine use case this doesn't buy us much. > > > The drm drivers (at least the ones used on both big and little endian > > > guests) support only 32 bpp + depth 24 formats. And for these we don't > > > need a "other endian" flag because we have fourcc codes for all sorts of > > > byte orders (i.e. DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 little endian == > > > DRM_FORMAT_BGRX8888 big endian). > > > > Yeah, those could be handled without the flag. But when mixed with any > > other format the code would look a bit weird IMO. > > Well, there is a reason only the 32bpp formats are supported. With > those you just adjust your color shifts and you are done. No need to > actually byte-swap. In contrast handling 16bpp formats (5:6:5 or 5:5:5) > with the non-native byte order is a PITA. Yes, which is why I wanted to make the format endianness explicit from the start so that you wouldn't have to guess whether you need to byte swap or not. > > The other reason of course is that this is the default format these > days. > > So, do any "other formats" exist where the byteswapped variant is used > in practice? I'm expecting people to move past 8bpc at some point. It's definitely not enough for HDR stuff and whatnot. Even video content is already moving to 10bpc. So I think the question is better phrased as do mixed endian systems exist? Or even if they do, does anyone care about them? Also if someone goes and changes the DRM_FORMATs to follow host endianness, they definitely have to figure out how to handle all the YCbCr formats as well. > Or can we just drop DRM_FORMAT_BIG_ENDIAN? > > > So my idea with the > > flag was that if you display is big endian you always have the flag, and > > then you don't have to think so much which way the bytes go for each > > format. Less special casing is good IMO. > > Having two valid fourcc (DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 + (DRM_FORMAT_BGRX8888 | > DRM_FORMAT_BIG_ENDIAN)) for the same format is confusing IMO. And I > doubt that it'll be properly implemented everywhere. I think it would be if people actually handled any of the other formats. It's a real shame these 8:8:8:8 formats were invented in the first place. They allow people to be overly lazy and ignore endianness issues until it's too late to fix things. -- Ville Syrjälä Intel OTC _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
