On 01/03/17 11:00 AM, Michael Zoran wrote: > On Wed, 2017-03-01 at 10:48 +0900, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> On 01/03/17 12:45 AM, Michael Zoran wrote: >>> On Tue, 2017-02-28 at 16:42 +0900, Michel Dänzer wrote: >>>> On 24/02/17 10:54 AM, Michael Zoran wrote: >>>>> Commonly used desktop environments such as xfce4 and gnome >>>>> on debian sid can flood the graphics drivers with cursor >>>>> updates. >>>> >>>> FWIW, this has nothing to do with the desktop environment or >>>> indeed >>>> the >>>> client side at all. Translating input to HW cursor movement is >>>> handled >>>> entirely inside the X server. >>> >>> Yes, as your point out it may well be the x server that is causing >>> this. I wasn't sure if it was the windows manager or the x server >>> that >>> was doing this. >>> >>> Either way, when opening a new application the driver gets flooded >>> with >>> cursor updates as something is animating a spinning cursor. Since >>> the >>> refresh rate is only 60Hz, I see a very long hang in the >>> desktop(several minutes) where nothing responds. SSHing into the >>> RPI >>> still works though even though it appears hung. >>> >>> I had a few people on the net test the changes and they all report >>> that >>> without the change xfce4 and gnome are both unusable on the >>> RPI. With >>> the change, things work fine. Not waiting for the vblank on cursor >>> updates is what other drivers appears to do as well... >> >> Sure. My point is merely that the commit log should say "Xorg can >> flood >> [...]" instead of "Commonly used desktop environments such as xfce4 >> and >> gnome on debian sid can flood [...]". >> > > Thanks for the tip. I don't plan to submit many vc4 changes, but it's > good to know. > > BTW, you wouldn't happen to know what component is animating the > spinning cursor? I still highly suspect it's either the window > manager(xfwm or mutter) or possibly the application that's drawing the > taskbar. A client asks the X server to use the spinning cursor, but the actual animation and corresponding DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CURSOR(2) calls are performed by the X server itself. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://www.amd.com Libre software enthusiast | Mesa and X developer _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel