On 06/02/17 17:50, Martin Peres wrote:
On 03/02/17 10:04, Daniel Vetter wrote:
On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 01:30:14AM +0200, Martin Peres wrote:
On 01/02/17 22:05, Manasi Navare wrote:
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 11:58:16AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017, Eric Anholt <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Martin Peres <martin.peres@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Despite all the careful planing of the kernel, a link may become
insufficient to handle the currently-set mode. At this point, the
kernel should mark this particular configuration as being broken
and potentially prune the mode before setting the offending
connector's
link-status to BAD and send the userspace a hotplug event. This may
happen right after a modeset or later on.
When available, we should use the link-status information to reset
the wanted mode.
Signed-off-by: Martin Peres <martin.peres@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
If I understand this right, there are two failure modes being
handled:
1) A mode that won't actually work because the link isn't good
enough.
2) A mode that should work, but link parameters were too
optimistic and
if we just ask the kernel to set the mode again it'll use more
conservative parameters that work.
This patch seems good for 2). For 1), the drmmode_set_mode_major is
going to set our old mode back. Won't the modeset then fail to link
train again, and bring us back into this loop? The only escape
that I
see would be some other userspace responding to the advertised
mode list
changing, and then asking X to modeset to something new.
To avoid that failure busy loop, should we re-fetching modes at this
point, and only re-setting if our mode still exists?
Disclaimer: I don't know anything about the internals of the
modesetting
driver.
Perhaps we can identify the two cases now, but I'd put this more
generally: if the link status has gone bad, it's an indicator to
userspace that the circumstances may have changed, and userspace
should
query the kernel for the list of available modes again. It should no
longer trust information obtained prior to getting the bad link
status,
including the current mode.
But specifically, I think you're right, and AFAICT asking for the
list
of modes again is the only way for the userspace to distinguish
between
the two cases. I don't think there's a shortcut for deciding the
current
mode is still valid.
To avoid the busy-loop problem, I think I'd like this patch to
re-query
the kernel to ask about the current mode list, and only try to re-set
the mode if our mode is still there.
If the mode isn't there, then it's up to the DE to take action in
response to the notification of new modes. If you don't have a DE to
take appropriate action, you're kind of out of luck.
As far as the ABI goes, this seems fine to me. The only concern I had
about ABI was having to walk all the connectors on every uevent to see
if any had gone bad -- couldn't we have a flag of some sort about what
the uevent indicates? But uevents should be super rare, so I'd say
the
kernel could go ahead with the current plan.
Yes I agree. The kernel sets the link status BAD as soona s link
training fails
but does not prune the modes until a new modelist is requested by
the userspace.
So this patch should re query the mode list as soon as it sees the
link status
BAD in order for the kernel to validate the modes again based on new
link
paarmeters and send a new mode list back.
Seems like a bad behaviour from the kernel, isn't it? It should return
immediatly
if the mode is gonna be pruned :s
The mode list pruning isn't relevant for modeesets, the kernel doesn't
validate requested modes against that. The mode list is purely for
userspace's information. Which means updating it only when userspace asks
for it is fine.
Hmm, ok. Fair enough!
I also thought some more about the loop when we're stuck on BAD, and I
think it shouldn't happen: When the link goes BAD we update the link
parameter values to the new limits, and the kernel will reject any mode
that won't fit anymore. Of course you might be unlucky, and the new link
limits are also not working, but eventually you're stuck at the "you're
link is broken, sry" stage, where the kernel rejects everything :-)
So I think the busy-loop has strictly a limited amount of time until it
runs out of steam.
OK, I have given it more thoughts and discussed with Ville and Chris IRL or
on IRC.
My current proposal is based on the idea that the kernel should reject a
mode
it knows it cannot set. This is already largely tested in real life: Try
setting 4K@60Hz on an HDMI 1.x monitor, it should immediately fail on
prepare(). For this proposal to work, we would need to put in the ABI
that a
driver that sets the link-status to BAD should also make sure that whatever
the userspace does, no infinite loop should be created (by changing the
maximum link characteristics before setting the link-status property).
Re-probing the list of modes and checking if the mode is still in there is
inherently racy, as a new screen may be plugged between the moment the list
is sent to the userspace and the moment when we try setting the mode. Or
the
DE may also have changed the mode in the mean time and the kernel would
have reduced the limits even more. So, the userspace cannot be expected to
always do the right thing here :s.
From this point of view, I really do not like the idea of re-probing, since
it increases the delay before the DE can handle the change and it does not
bring any guarantee of working properly.
Did I miss anything? Any opinions?
Any comments on this, Eric? Does it sound logical to you or did I miss
something?
The kernel patches are stuck until this patch gets in. So far, you look
like the only person who would be willing to review this patch (Ajax
acked the patch, but that's the extent he was willing to go).
Feel free to suggest more potential reviewers if you don't want to
commit to a R-b.
Cheers,
Martin
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