Hi Vincent, On Wednesday 11 Jan 2017 09:03:07 Vincent ABRIOU wrote: > On 01/11/2017 08:48 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:06:44PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > >> On Tuesday 10 Jan 2017 13:33:29 Vincent ABRIOU wrote: > >>> On 01/10/2017 12:39 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:21:09PM +0100, Vincent Abriou wrote: > >>>>> In case no connector is found while creating the fbdev, gives the > >>>>> possibility to specify the default fbdev size by firstly checking if > >>>>> the command line is defining a preferred mode. Else go into fallback > >>>>> and set 1024x768 fbdev size as it was already done. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@xxxxxx> > >>>>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Abriou <vincent.abriou@xxxxxx> > >>>> > >>>> btw on all this there's also the possible solution to delay setup of > >>>> the fbdev until the first connector switches to connected, and then > >>>> only allocting the fb and doing the setup. Tegra has that, and Thierry > >>>> did some patches to move that logic into the fb helpers. But there's > >>>> some locking issues that need to be fixed first, hence why those > >>>> patches haven't landed yet. > >>>> > >>>> But if you never probe the right mode, this here sounds like a good > >>>> idea too. > >>> > >>> The early creation of fbdev is useful for userland system. If fbdev > >>> creation is delayed until first connector is connected, userland systems > >>> startup could fails (like Android that check fbdev availability at > >>> startup). > >>> > >>> Today if no connector is connected, a default 1024x768 fbdev is created > >>> but it does not necessarily match the targeted CRTC size. When the > >>> connector is connected, fbdev is not reconfigured with the targeted CRTC > >>> size and it is anyway too late for the userland to take into account new > >>> fbdev size. Reading the cmdline is an easy way to solve this. > >> > >> Isn't it another case of working around userspace issue in the kernel ? > >> Shouldn't the offending userspace code be fixed ? And while at it, moved > >> from fbdev to DRM/KMS ? :-) I wrote a proof-of-concept patch a few years > >> ago to use DRM/KMS in the Android init process. I'm sure it doesn't > >> apply cleanly anymore, but I can share it if you're interested. > > Android is one example and it still give the possibility to start with > fbdev. I'm not trying to fixe userspace issue (there is so many userspaces > :)). The default case to set fbdev to 1024x768 already exist in the drm fb > helpers. I just add a way to be flexible. Sure, I understand that. My point is that, instead of making life easy for userspace that hasn't switched to DRM/KMS yet, wouldn't it be time to push them a bit more ? > > So android still doesn't boot without fbdev? I thought that's been fixed I haven't checked the latest version to be honest. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel