Re: [PATCH] drm: remove immutable flag from suggested X/Y connector properties

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 03:30:04PM +0100, Michael Thayer wrote:
> 21.12.2016 10:05, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:38:52AM +0100, Michael Thayer wrote:
> > > The suggested X and Y connector properties are intended as a way for drivers
> > > for virtual machine GPUs to provide information about the layout of the
> > > host system windows (or whatever) corresponding to given guest connectors.
> > > The intention is for the guest system to lay out screens in the virtual
> > > desktop in a way which reflects the host layout.  Sometimes though the guest
> > > system chooses not to follow those hints, usually due to user requests.  In
> > > this case it is useful to be able to pass information back about the actual
> > > layout chosen.
> > > 
> > > The immediate use case for this is host-to-guest pointer input mapping.
> > > Qemu, VirtualBox and VMWare currently handle this by providing an emulated
> > > graphics tablet device to the guest.  libinput defaults, as did X.Org before
> > > it used libinput, to mapping the position information reported by the device
> > > to the smallest rectangle enclosing the screen layout.  Knowing that layout
> > > lets the hypervisor send the right position information through the input
> > > device.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael Thayer <michael.thayer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > ---
> > > Follow-up to thread "Passing multi-screen layout to KMS driver".  In that
> > > thread, Gerd suggested an alternative way of solving the use case, namely
> > > emulating one input device per virtual screen, touchscreen-style.  My reasons
> > > for prefering this approach is that it is relatively uninvasive, and closer
> > > to the way things are done now without (in my opinion) being ugly; and that
> > > automatic touchscreen input to screen mapping is still not a solved problem.
> > > I think that both are valid though.
> > > 
> > > Both approaches require changes to the hypervisor and virtual hardware, and
> > > to user-space consumers which would use the interface.  I have checked the
> > > mutter source and believe that the change required to support the interface
> > > as implemented here would be minimal and intend to submit a patch if this
> > > change is accepted.  I think that the virtual hardware changes are likely to
> > > be less invasive with this approach than with the other.  This change will
> > > though also require small drm driver changes once the virtual hardware has
> > > been adjusted; currently to the qxl driver and to the out-of-tree vboxvideo
> > > driver.  It would certainly be nice to have in virtio-gpu.
> > 
> > Makes sense I think, but for merging we need:
> > - some driver to implement
> 
> This is where it starts getting tricky.  vboxvideo is out of tree.  In
> theory I could look at getting it merged, but that needs time I am rather
> short of (I am the only person maintaining that driver and it is just one of
> my responsibilities; and there are some bits there that are probably too
> ugly to merge as is).  I don't think I am really the person to be doing this
> for qxl/virtio-gpu as that required adding the support to qemu too.  I think
> that they really should have it, but I would rather not be the one adding
> it.  So would our out-of-tree driver be good enough?

I don't see the point in merging core code for out-of-tree drivers. If
it's out-of-tree you can just add this locally (by adding the property).
Has ofc the risk of uapi breakage or not upstream opting for a slightly
different flavour, but that's the price for not being upstream.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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