On 06/24/2011 06:55 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:19, Paul Mundt<lethal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 07:45, Florian Tobias Schandinat
<FlorianSchandinat@xxxxxx> wrote:
On 06/21/2011 10:31 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Tuesday 21 June 2011 22:49:14 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
As FOURCC values are always 4 ASCII characters (hence all 4 bytes must
be non-zero), I don't think there are any conflicts with existing values
of
nonstd. To make it even safer and easier to parse, you could set bit 31
of
nonstd as a FOURCC indicator.
I would then create a union between nonstd and fourcc, and document nonstd
as
being used for the legacy API only. Most existing drivers use a couple of
nonstd bits only. The driver that (ab)uses nonstd the most is pxafb and
uses
bits 22:0. Bits 31:24 are never used as far as I can tell, so nonstd&
0xff000000 != 0 could be used as a FOURCC mode test.
This assumes that FOURCCs will never have their last character set to
'\0'. Is
that a safe assumption for the future ?
Yes, I think. The information I found indicates that space should be used
for padding, so a \0 shouldn't exist.
I think using only the nonstd field and requiring applications to check the
capabilities would be possible, although not fool proof ;)
So we can declare the 8 msb bits of nonstd reserved, and assume FOURCC if
any of them is set.
Nicely backwards compatible, as sane drivers should reject nonstd values they
don't support (apps _will_ start filling in FOURCC values ignoring capabilities,
won't they?).
That seems like a reasonable case, but if we're going to do that then
certainly the nonstd bit encoding needs to be documented and treated as a
hard ABI.
I'm not so sure about the if any bit in the upper byte is set assume
FOURCC case though, there will presumably be other users in the future
that will want bits for themselves, too. What exactly was the issue with
having a FOURCC capability bit in the upper byte?
That indeed gives less issues (as long as you don't stuff 8-bit ASCII
in the MSB)
and more bits for tradiditional nonstd users.
The only disadvantage I can see is that it requires adding this bit in the
application and stripping it when interpreting it. But I think the 24 lower bits
should be enough for driver specific behavior (as the current values really can
only be interpreted per driver).
BTW, after giving it some more thought: what does the FB_CAP_FOURCC buys
us? It's not like all drivers will support whatever random FOURCC mode
you give them,
so you have to check whether it's supported by doing a set_var first.
Because any solution purely based on the nonstd field is insane. The abuse of
that field is just too widespread. Drivers that use nonstd usually only check
whether it is zero or nonzero and others will just interpret parts of nonstd and
ignore the rest. They will happily accept FOURCC values in the nonstd and just
doing the wrong thing. Even if we would fix those the problems applications will
run into with older kernels will remain.
Greetings,
Florian Tobias Schandinat
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