Re: [PATCH 1/2] Revert "drm: Add and handle new aspect ratios in DRM layer"

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Regards

Shashank


On 11/15/2016 2:21 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:26:08PM +0530, Sharma, Shashank wrote:
On 11/14/2016 10:15 PM, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:12:04PM +0530, Sharma, Shashank wrote:
Regards

Shashank


On 11/14/2016 9:50 PM, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 09:37:18PM +0530, Sharma, Shashank wrote:
Regards

Shashank


On 11/14/2016 9:19 PM, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:14:34PM +0530, Sharma, Shashank wrote:
Regards
Shashank
the revert:

      HDMI2 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 700mm x 390mm
-   1920x1080     60.00*+
-   1920x1080i    60.00    50.00
+   1920x1080     60.00*+  50.00    59.94    30.00    25.00    24.00    29.97    23.98
+   1920x1080i    60.00    50.00    59.94
         1600x1200     60.00
         1680x1050     59.88
         1280x1024     75.02    60.02
@@ -13,30 +13,29 @@
         1360x768      60.02
         1280x800      59.91
         1152x864      75.00
-   1280x720      60.00    50.00
+   1280x720      60.00    50.00    59.94
         1024x768      75.03    70.07    60.00
         832x624       74.55
         800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32
-   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    59.94
+   720x576       50.00
+   720x480       60.00    59.94
+   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    60.00    59.94
         720x400       70.08
None of these aspect ratios are new modes / new aspect ratios from HDMI
2.0/CEA-861-F
These are the existing modes, and should be independent of reverted
patches.
They're affected because your patches changed them by adding the aspect
ratio flags to them.
Yes, But they are independent of reverted patch, which adds aspect ratio
for HDMI 2.0 ratios (64:27 and 256:135)
The second patch had to be reverted so that the first patch would revert
cleanly.

This was with sna, which does this:
      #define KNOWN_MODE_FLAGS ((1<<14)-1)
      if (mode->status == MODE_OK && kmode->flags & ~KNOWN_MODE_FLAGS)
      	mode->status = MODE_BAD; /* unknown flags => unhandled */
so all the modes with an aspect ratio just vanished.

-modesetting and -ati on the other hand just copy over the unknown
bits into the xrandr mode structure, which sounds dubious at best:
      mode->Flags = kmode->flags; //& FLAG_BITS;
I've not checked what damage it can actually cause.


It looks like a few modes disappeared from the kernel's mode list
as well, presumably because some cea modes in the list originated from
DTDs and whanot so they don't have an aspect ratio and that causes
add_alternate_cea_modes() to ignore them. So not populating an aspect
ratio for cea modes originating from a source other than
edid_cea_modes[] looks like another bug to me as well.
I am writing a patch series to cap the aspect ratio implementation under
a drm_cap_hdmi2_aspect_ratios
This is how its going to work (inspired from the 2D/stereo series from
damien L)

- Add a new capability hdmi2_ar
It should be just a generic "expose aspect ratio flags to userspace?"
Makes sense, in this way we can even revert the aspect_ratio property
for HDMI connector, as discussed during
the code review sessions of this patch series. In this way, when kernel
will expose the aspect ratios, it will either
do the aspect ratios as per EDID, or wont.
- by default parsing the new hdmi 2.0 aspect ratio will be disabled
under check of this cap
- during bootup time, while initializing the display, a userspace can
get_cap on the hdmi2_aspect_ratio
- If it wants HDMI 2.0 aspect ratio support, it will set the cap, and
kernel will expose these aspect ratios
Another bug I think might be the ordering of the modes with aspect ratio
specified. IIRC the spec says that the preferred aspect ratio should be
listed first in the EDID, but I don't think we preserve that ordering
in the final mode list. I guess we could fix that by somehow noting
which aspect ratio is preferred and sort based on that, or we try to
preserve the order from the EDID until we're ready to sort, and then do
the sorting with a stable algorithm.
AFAIK The mode order and priority is decided and arranged in userspace,
based on various factors like
- preferred mode.
- previously applied mode in previous sessions (like for android tvs)
- Bigger h/w vs better refresh rate ?
- Xserver applies its own algorithms to decide which mode should be
shown first.
Xorg does sort on its own. But since it doesn't know anything about
aspect ratios and whatnot I wouldn't rely on that for anything. I
also wouldn't expect eg. wayland compositors to do their own sorting.
And yeah, looks like weston at least doesn't do any sorting whatsoever.

I dont think kernel needs to bother about it.
So I'm going to say that we in fact do need to bother.

IMHO, making policies for UI is not a part of kernel design, a UI
manager (Hardware composed, X or Wayland) should take care of it, as
they have access to much information (Like previously applied mode, user
preference etc). When it comes to sorting of modes, the only general rule
across drivers like FB, V4L2, I have seen is the first mode in the list
should be preferred mode, which we are still keeping. And after that our
probed_modes were
anyways not sorted now, so it doesn't matter further.
Having userspace be responsible for sorting the aspect ratios would
perhaps require that userspace parses the EDID, which is pretty crazy.
Why ?
userspace has to just set cap for aspect ratio, and kernel can read
EDID, parse the CEA block, populate the aspect ratios flags
and add the modes (Just what this patch was doing, except the cap part)
Once userspace has the getResources/getConnector call filled, it can
access all the modes (with and without aspect) and do the sorting
in any way it wants.
I guess it could try to deduce something from the physical aspect ratio
of the display, but I'm not sure that's quite what we want either.

Also we already sort the modes in the kernel anyway, so it's not like
we'd be doing something new by also considering the aspect ratios.
I would at the very least want to avoid a totally random order between
modes that differ only by the aspect ratio.
Path: get_connector -> probe_single_connector_mode -> drm_add_edid_modes
Again, IMHO, we don't sort the modes in kernel, we populate modes in a
particular order, which is:
(From drm_edid.c::drm_add_edid_modes)
##############################################################
/*
        * EDID spec says modes should be preferred in this order:
        * - preferred detailed mode
        * - other detailed modes from base block
        * - detailed modes from extension blocks
        * - CVT 3-byte code modes
        * - standard timing codes
        * - established timing codes
        * - modes inferred from GTF or CVT range information
        *
        * We get this pretty much right.
        *
        * XXX order for additional mode types in extension blocks?
        */
       num_modes += add_detailed_modes(connector, edid, quirks);
       num_modes += add_cvt_modes(connector, edid);
       num_modes += add_standard_modes(connector, edid);
       num_modes += add_established_modes(connector, edid);
       num_modes += add_cea_modes(connector, edid);
       num_modes += add_alternate_cea_modes(connector, edid);
       num_modes += add_displayid_detailed_modes(connector, edid);
###############################################################

Here the modes are added in the connector, in the same order they are
arranged into their respective blocks in EDID.
But the order to read the block is a preferred order (no sorting).

Now, in this patch series, we are adding aspect ratio information in
edid_cea_modes db, which is going to affect only
add_cea/alternate_cea_modes() call, and the modes accordingly.
Please let me know if I misunderstood something here.
We explicitly sort the modes after this.
In any case, I guess addition of a cap for aspect ratio should fix the
current objections for this implementation.

And I will keep it 0 by default, so that no aspect ratio information is
added until userspace sets the cap to 1 on its own.
Note that cap = needs new userspace.
-Daniel
I guess you mean a new libdrm, so yes, I will add this new cap in libdrm.
Is that what you mean ?


Regards

Shashank

Regards
Shashank
If X server doesn't know what to do with aspect ratio flags, it can
chose not to set the cap, and if HWC knows, it can chose to set. This is
the same situation as 2D stereo modes
which are existing already.

Regards
Shashank

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