On Monday, May 23, 2011 13:55:21 Marek Szyprowski wrote: > Hello, > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:54 AM Hans Verkuil wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 00:44:26 Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Laurent Pinchart > > > <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I need to implement support for a YUV frame buffer in an fbdev driver. > > As the > > > > fbdev API doesn't support this out of the box, I've spent a couple of > > days > > > > reading fbdev (and KMS) code and thinking about how we could cleanly > > add YUV > > > > support to the API. I'd like to share my findings and thoughts, and > > hopefully > > > > receive some comments back. > > > > > > > > The terms 'format', 'pixel format', 'frame buffer format' and 'data > > format' > > > > will be used interchangeably in this e-mail. They all refer to the way > > pixels > > > > are stored in memory, including both the representation of a pixel as > > integer > > > > values and the layout of those integer values in memory. > > > > > > This is a great proposal. It was about time! > > > > > > > The third solution has my preference. Comments and feedback will be > > > > appreciated. I will then work on a proof of concept and submit patches. > > > > > > I also would prefer the third solution. I don't think there's much > > > difference from the user-space point of view, and a new ioctl would be > > > cleaner. Also the v4l2 fourcc's should do. > > > > I agree with this. > > > > We might want to take the opportunity to fix this section of the V4L2 Spec: > > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~hverkuil/spec/media.html#pixfmt-rgb > > > > There are two tables, 2.6 and 2.7. But 2.6 is almost certainly wrong and > > should be removed. > > That's definitely true. I was confused at the beginning when I saw 2 > different tables describing the same pixel formats. > > I suspect many if not all V4L2 drivers are badly broken for > > big-endian systems and report the wrong pixel formats. > > > > Officially the pixel formats reflect the contents of the memory. But > > everything is swapped on a big endian system, so you are supposed to > > report a different pix format. > > I always thought that pix_format describes the layout of video data in > memory on byte level, which is exactly the same on both little- and big- > endian systems. Correct. > You can notice swapped data only if you access memory > by units larger than byte, like 16bit or 32bit integers. BTW - I would > really like to avoid little- and big- endian flame, but your statement > about 'everything is swapped on a big endian system' is completely > wrong. It is rather the characteristic of little-endian system not big > endian one if you display the content of the same memory first using > byte access and then using word/long access. You are correct, I wasn't thinking it through. > > I can't remember seeing any driver do that. Some have built-in swapping, > > though, and turn that on if needed. > > The drivers shouldn't do ANY byte swapping at all. Only tools that > extract pixel data with some 'accelerated' methods (like 32bit integer > casting and bit-level shifting) should be aware of endianess. > > > I really need to run some tests, but I've been telling myself this for > > years now :-( > > I've checked the BTTV board in my PowerMac/G4 and the display was > correct with xawtv. It is just a matter of selecting correct pix format > basing on the information returned by xsever. > > Best regards > Just forget my post (except for the part of cleaning up the tables :-) ). Regards, Hans _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel