Re: DMA engine API issue (was: [PATCH/RFC 0/5] R-Car Gen2 DMAC hardware descriptor list support)

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Hi Laurent again

> > > The rsnd_soc_dai_trigger() function takes a spinlock, making the context
> > > atomic, which regmap doesn't like as it locks a mutex.
> > > 
> > > It might be possible to fix this by setting the fast_io field in both the
> > > regmap_config and regmap_bus structures in sound/soc/sh/rcar/gen.c. regmap
> > > will then use a spinlock instead of a mutex. However, even if I believe that
> > > change makes sense and should be done, another atomic context issue will
> > > come from the rcar-dmac driver which allocates memory in the
> > > prep_dma_cyclic function, called by rsnd_dma_start() from
> > > rsnd_soc_dai_trigger() with the spinlock help.
> > > 
> > > What context is the rsnd_soc_dai_trigger() function called in by the alsa
> > > core ? If it's guaranteed to be a sleepable context, would it make sense to
> > > replace the rsnd_priv spinlock with a mutex ?
> > 
> > Answering myself here, that's not an option, as the trigger function is called 
> > in atomic context (replacing the spinlock with a mutex produced a clear BUG) 
> > due to snd_pcm_lib_write1() taking a spinlock.
> > 
> > Now we have a core issue. On one side there's rsnd_soc_dai_trigger() being 
> > called in atomic context, and on the other side the function ends up calling 
> > dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() which needs to allocate memory. To make this more 
> > func the DMA engine API is undocumented and completely silent on whether the 
> > prep functions are allowed to sleep. The question is, who's wrong ?
> > 
> > Now, if you're tempted to say that I'm wrong by allocating memory with 
> > GFP_KERNEL in the DMA engine driver, please read on first :-) I've tried 
> > replacing GFP_KERNEL with GFP_ATOMIC allocations, and then ran into a problem 
> > more complex to solve.
> > 
> > The rcar-dmac DMA engine driver uses runtime PM. When not used, the device is 
> > suspended. The driver calls pm_runtime_get_sync() to resume the device, and 
> > needs to do so when a descriptor is submitted. This operation, currently 
> > performed in the tx_submit handler, could be moved to the prep_dma_cyclic or 
> > issue_pending handler, but the three operations are called in a row from 
> > rsnd_dma_start(), itself ultimately called from snd_pcm_lib_write1() with the 
> > spinlock held. This means I have no place in my DMA engine driver where I can 
> > resume the device.
> > 
> > One could argue that the rcar-dmac driver could use a work queue to handle 
> > power management. That's correct, but the additional complexity, which would 
> > be required in *all* DMA engine drivers, seem too high to me. If we need to go 
> > that way, this is really a task that the DMA engine core should handle.
> > 
> > Let's start by answering the background question and updating the DMA engine 
> > API documentation once and for good : in which context are drivers allowed to 
> > call the prep, tx_submit and issue_pending functions ?
> 
> rsnd driver (and sound/soc/sh/fsi driver too) is using prep_dma_cyclic() now,
> but, it had been used prep_slave_single() before.
> Then, it used work queue in dai_trigger function.
> How about to use same method in prep_dma_cyclic() ?
> Do you think your issue will be solved if sound driver calls prep_dma_cyclic()
> from work queue ?

Sorry, this doesn't solve issue.
dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() is used in
${LINUX}/sound/core/pcm_dmaengine.c,
and the situation is same as ours.

Hmm..
In my quick check, other DMAEngine drivers are using GFP_ATOMIC
in cyclic/prep_slave_sg functions...


Best regards
---
Kuninori Morimoto
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