Re: [PATCH V5 11/12] block: add poll_capable method to support bio-based IO polling

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On 4/15/21 3:43 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:34:36AM +0800, JeffleXu wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/14/21 7:24 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 04:38:25PM +0800, JeffleXu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/12/21 5:38 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 10:19:26AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>>> From: Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This method can be used to check if bio-based device supports IO polling
>>>>>> or not. For mq devices, checking for hw queue in polling mode is
>>>>>> adequate, while the sanity check shall be implementation specific for
>>>>>> bio-based devices. For example, dm device needs to check if all
>>>>>> underlying devices are capable of IO polling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though bio-based device may have done the sanity check during the
>>>>>> device initialization phase, cacheing the result of this sanity check
>>>>>> (such as by cacheing in the queue_flags) may not work. Because for dm
>>>>>> devices, users could change the state of the underlying devices through
>>>>>> '/sys/block/<dev>/io_poll', bypassing the dm device above. In this case,
>>>>>> the cached result of the very beginning sanity check could be
>>>>>> out-of-date. Thus the sanity check needs to be done every time 'io_poll'
>>>>>> is to be modified.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't think thi should be a method, and I really do dislike
>>>>> how we have all this "if (is_mq)" junk.  Why can't we have a flag on
>>>>> the gendisk that signals if the device can support polling that
>>>>> is autoamtically set for blk-mq and as-needed by bio based drivers?
>>>>
>>>> That would consume one more bit of queue->queue_flags.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, DM/MD is somehow special here that when one of the underlying
>>>> devices is disabled polling through '/sys/block/<dev>/io_poll',
>>>> currently there's no mechanism notifying the above MD/DM to clear the
>>>> previously set queue_flags. Thus the outdated queue_flags still
>>>> indicates this DM/MD is capable of polling, while in fact one of the
>>>> underlying device has been disabled for polling.
>>>
>>> Right, just like there isn't queue limit progagation.
>>>
>>> Another blocker could be that bio based queue doesn't support queue
>>> freezing.
>>
>> Do you mean the queue freezing is called in the following code snippet?
>>
>> ```
>> static ssize_t queue_poll_store(struct request_queue *q, const char
>> *page, size_t count)
>> {
>> 	...
>> 	if (poll_on) {
>> 		blk_queue_flag_set(QUEUE_FLAG_POLL, q);
>> 	} else {
>> 		blk_mq_freeze_queue(q);
>> 		blk_queue_flag_clear(QUEUE_FLAG_POLL, q);
>> 		blk_mq_unfreeze_queue(q);
>> 	}
>> ```
> 
> Yes, if it is a bio based queue. Or bio queued queue(DM, MD or others) may
> use freeze_queue to do similar thing.
> 
>>
>> And I can't understand how bio-based queue doesn't support queue freezing.
>>
>> ```
>> submit_bio_noacct
>> 	__submit_bio_noacct
>> 		bio_queue_enter
>> ```
>>
>> Every time submitting a bio, bio_queue_enter() will be called, and once
>> the queue has been frozen, bio_queue_enter() will wait there until the
>> queue is unfrozen.
> 
> Not like blk-mq, the refcount is just grabbed during submission for bio based
> queue. 

Could you please explain it more detailed ....


I will research a bit and see if we can extend freeze queue for
> covering bio based queue. One trouble is that bio is ended before
> freeing request.
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike had ever suggested that we can trust the queue_flag, and clear the
>>>> outdated queue_flags when later the IO submission or polling routine
>>>> finally finds that the device is not capable of polling. Currently
>>>> submit_bio_checks() will silently clear the REQ_HIPRI flag and still
>>>> submit the bio when the device is actually not capable of polling. To
>>>> fix the issue, could we break the submission and return an error code in
>>>> submit_bio_checks() if the device is not capable of polling when
>>>> submitting HIPRI bio?
>>>
>>> I think we may just leave it alone, if underlying queue becomes not pollable,
>>> the bio still can be submitted & completed via IRQ, just not efficient enough.
>>
>> Yes it still works. I agree if there's no better solution...
>>
>> And what about the issue Christoph originally concerned? Do we use one
>> more flag bit indicating if the queue capable of polling, or the
>> poll_capable() method way?
> 
> Just wondering why we can't use QUEUE_FLAG_POLL simply? If user wants to
> enable it, let's do it for them. And bio driver can start with default poll
> state by checking underlying queues.
> 

Consider the following scenario: QUEUE_FLAG_POLL is set after
initialization, indicating the device capable of polling; then polling
is turned off by '/sys/block/<dev>/io_poll', thus QUEUE_FLAG_POLL is
cleared.

So we have to implement two semantics:
1. a flag indicating whether the device is **capable** of polling or
not; (adding another flag bit, or calling poll_capable() every time
polling is to be turned on)
2. a flag indicating whether polling is currently **turned on** or not
(i.e., QUEUE_FLAG_POLL)



-- 
Thanks,
Jeffle

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