Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] dm-zoned: add cache device

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On Mon, Mar 23 2020 at 11:26am -0400,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 3/23/20 4:15 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >On Mon, Mar 23 2020 at 11:03am -0400,
> >Hannes Reinecke <hare@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Damien,
> >>
> >>as my original plan to upgrade bcache to work for SMR devices
> >>turned out to be more complex than anticipated I went for the
> >>simpler approach and added a 'cache' device for dm-zoned.
> >>It is using a normal device (eg '/dev/pmem0' :-), split it
> >>into zones of the same size of the original SMR device, and
> >>makes those 'virtual' zones avialable to dm-zoned in a similar
> >>manner than the existing 'random write' zoned.
> >>
> >>The implementation is still a bit rough (one would need to add
> >>metadata to the cache device, too), but so far it seems to work
> >>quite well; still running after copying 300GB of data back and forth.
> >>
> >>As usual, comments and reviews are welcome.
> >
> >Not seeing why this needs to be so specialized (natively implemented in
> >dm-zoned).  Did you try stacking dm-writecache on dm-zoned?
> >
> dm-zoned is using the random-write zones internally to stage writes
> to the sequential zones, so in effect it already has an internal
> caching.
> All this patch does is to use a different device for the already present
> mechanism.
> Using dm-writecache would be ignorant of that mechanism, leading to
> double caching and detrimental results.

If dm-writecache were effective at submitting larger IO then dm-zoned
shouldn't be resorting to caching in random-write zones at all -- that
is a big if, so not saying it'll "just work".  But if both layers are
working then it should.

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