On Thu 30-08-18 15:17:16, Jeff Moyer wrote: > Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Tue 28-08-18 13:56:30, Mike Snitzer wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 28 2018 at 3:50am -0400, > >> Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon 27-08-18 16:43:28, Kani, Toshi wrote: > >> > > On Mon, 2018-08-27 at 18:07 +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > >> > > > Hi, > >> > > > > >> > > > I've been analyzing why fstest generic/081 fails when the backing device is > >> > > > capable of DAX. The problem boils down to the failure of: > >> > > > > >> > > > lvm vgcreate -f vg0 /dev/pmem0 > >> > > > lvm lvcreate -L 128M -n lv0 vg0 > >> > > > lvm lvcreate -s -L 4M -n snap0 vg0/lv0 > >> > > > > >> > > > The last command fails like: > >> > > > > >> > > > device-mapper: reload ioctl on (253:0) failed: Invalid argument > >> > > > Failed to lock logical volume vg0/lv0. > >> > > > Aborting. Manual intervention required. > >> > > > > >> > > > And the core of the problem is that volume vg0/lv0 is originally of > >> > > > DM_TYPE_DAX_BIO_BASED type but when the snapshot gets created, we try to > >> > > > switch it to DM_TYPE_BIO_BASED because now the device stops supporting DAX. > >> > > > The problem seems to be introduced by Ross' commit dbc626597 "dm: prevent > >> > > > DAX mounts if not supported". > >> > > > > >> > > > The question is whether / how this should be fixed. The current inability > >> > > > to create snapshots of DAX-capable devices looks weird and the cryptic > >> > > > failure makes it even worse (it took me quite a while to understand what is > >> > > > failing and why). OTOH I see the rationale behind Ross' change as well. > >> > > > >> > > Here are the dm-snap changes that went along with the original DAX > >> > > support. > >> > > > >> > > commit b5ab4a9ba55 > >> > > commit f6e629bd237 > >> > > > >> > > Basically, snapshots can be added/removed to DAX-capable devices, but > >> > > snapshots need to be mounted without dax option. > >> > > >> > Yes, and after these two commits things were working. But then commit > >> > dbc626597 broke things again so currently snapshotting DAX-capable devices > >> > does not work. Just try with 4.18... > >> > >> Commit f6e629bd237 was a nasty hack, and commit dbc626597 exposed it as > >> such. But commit dbc626597 has caused us to regress.. so we need to fix > >> it. > >> > >> We could remove DM_TYPE_DAX_BIO_BASED completely. But in the past I was > >> reluctant to do so because it really is unclear how/if we can even > >> support a device switching from DAX to non-DAX while IO is in-flight. DM > >> supports suspending without flushing (via dmsetup suspend --noflush) and > >> that could really be problematic if we leave DAX IO inflight and then > >> switch the DM table such that the DM device no longer supports DAX. > > > > Well, changing device from DAX-capable to DAX-incapable is problematic for > > filesystem on top of it as well. Filesystems simply don't expect this > > feature of a device can change so they would fail in unexpected ways. Also > > PFNs from the pmem (DAX-capable) device that are already mapped to user page > > tables won't magically become unmapped so those processes will still have > > DAX access to those areas of the device. > > > > But, if both original bdev and COW device are DAX-capable, we *should* be > > able to support snapshotting (and refusing mixing of DAX-capable and > > DAX-incapable devices in a snapshot is IMHO not very surprising to users). > > When creating a snapshot of a device, we need to freeze the filesystem > > using it. That will writeprotect all page tables so we are sure we'll get > > page faults (and thus ->direct_access requests from DM POV) for each write > > attempt to any mapping. Then ->direct_access method of snapshot-origin can > > make sure to copy original contents to the COW-device before returning PFN > > from ->direct_access. Similarly ->direct_access of COW-device can provide > > remapped PFN so everything should work seamlessly from user POV. > > In your example above, if two processes have a file mapped with > MAP_SHARED, and P1 does a store, the new contents will not be reflected > in P2, right?. This is different from what is expected, and different > from what happens when the page cache is involved. > > I think you'd need to unmap all mappings on a CoW, whether triggered by > a store to an existing mapping or a write(2). Yes, you are right. For COW-device we need to unmap all DAX mappings before doing CoW. But for snapshot-origin device, we don't need that, right? As for that case no block actually changes location. So there notification to DM on first write access should be enough. Am I understanding the problem right? Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
