Mikulas, On 9/12/17 19:32, Mikulas Patocka wrote: >>> The writeback throttling code is executed at request level and the >>> dm-zoned target working above it, at bio level. So I don't see how >>> dm-zoned progress could be blocked by writeback throttling. >> >> Request layer? All the code in block/blk-wbt.c acts on BIOs, in >> particular the function wbt_wait() which is called before get_request() >> in blk_queue_bio(), which is q->make_request_fn, so all of this happens > > blk_queue_bio() is only called for request-based drivers (i.e. physical > disk drivers), not for bio-based device mapper drivers. So, bios incoming > to your target will never be delayed because of throttling, only the > outgoing bios will be delayed. Arrg ! Of course ! What an idiot I am. The dm target queue request_fn function is different from that of the physical disks. You are absolutely correct and my analysis was just plain wrong. >> before a request even exists for the BIO. wbt_wait() calls >> wbt_should_throttle() for the BIO to queue and will cause >> blk_queue_bio() to sleep if that functions returns true and the number >> of in-flight BIOs exceeds the set limit (wb_max, wb_normal or >> wb_background). >> >> Are we talking about a different throttling here ? Or am I entirely >> missing something ? > > So, you send some bios to the physical disk driver. The physical disk > driver eventually starts throttling and blocks in the function > blk_queue_bio(). If your driver deadlocks because the underlying disk > driver blocks, then it is a bug in your driver. > > The patch that you sent seems to be just a workaround, not a real fix. The > underlying disk driver may block for multiple reasons. For example, if > you set "echo 4 >/sys/block/sda/queue/nr_requests" on the disk, it will > allow just 4 outstanding requests and then block. The disk driver can also > block at random times, if there is temporary memory shortage and the > request structure can't be allocated. dm-zoned chunk works which process target incoming BIOs and issue BIOs to the physical drive do not wait for the completion of the physical BIOs. Only the flush work does for BIOs handling metadata. But the flush work and the chunk works cannot execute simultaneously (there is a semaphore to prevent that). So no amount of blocking on BIO issuing (by wb throttling, memory or request allocation or any other reason) can cause a deadlock between chunk works and flush. Progress is always possible. >>> Maybe you have some other bug in your code and this patch just masks it? >> >> Doing more testing with the current 4.13, I am now failing to reproduce >> the hang. So you are right, it likely was something else. >> >> In fact, analyzing writeback throttling more carefully, I realized that >> the BIOs received by the chunk work and the metadata flush work BIOs are >> throttled against different in-flight counters as the former BIOs are >> issued to the target device queue while the latter are issued to the >> target backing dev queue. As a result, one should not be blocking the >> other. Chunk works may have to wait for metadata flush to complete >> first, but that is before these works issue BIOs on the target bdev so >> they cannot in turn block flush on a throttling condition. >> >> Thanks for asking these hard questions! > > The function submit_bio() or generic_make_request() can block anytime. If > you driver assumes that it can submit multiple bios without blocking, it > is a bug in your driver and you need to fix it. > > I suggest that you try "echo 4 >/sys/block/sda/queue/nr_requests" for the > underlying disk and then try to reproduce the deadlock, analyze it and fix > it. See above. I got it. I went back to the initial code & test conditions I used when I first reported the problem and sent the patch. I could recreate the problem. It turns out that the real cause is zone write locking in the scsi-mq path which can cause dispatch deadlock. If such deadlock occurs, the chunk work issued BIOs do not complete and a flush work run trying to sync metadata end up being blocked on wb throttling, but only because the chunk work BIOs are still in-flight. The real cause is not wb throttling, but ZBC+scsi-mq failing to make progress on the issued requests. The patch I sent is indeed useless. WB throttling is just fine with dm-zoned. I am working on fixing ZBC on scsi-mq. But that is different from the dm path and no patch is needed there. Thank you for all your comments. Best regards. -- Damien Le Moal, Western Digital -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
