Re: [PATCH] dax: remove the pmem_dax_ops->flush abstraction

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On Thu, 31 Aug 2017, Dan Williams wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The patch abebfbe2f731 ("dm: add ->flush() dax operation support") is
> > buggy. A dm device may be composed of multiple underlying devices and all
> > of them need to be flushed. The patch just routes the flush request to the
> > first device and ignores the other devices.
> >
> > It could be fixed by adding more complex logic to the device mapper. But
> > there is only one implementation of the method pmem_dax_ops->flush - that
> > is pmem_dax_flush() - and it calls arch_wb_cache_pmem(). Consequently, we
> > don't need the pmem_dax_ops->flush abstraction at all, we can call
> > arch_wb_cache_pmem() directly from dax_flush() because dax_dev->ops->flush
> > couldn't ever reach anything different from arch_wb_cache_pmem().
> 
> Unfortunately, this is not true, see usage of DAXDEV_WRITE_CACHE. This
> is for platforms that arrange for cpu caches to be flushed on
> power-fail, like standalone storage appliances, where it would be a

BTW. if the system is capable of flushing caches on power failure, it is 
system-wide feature, it is not per-device feature. The CPU caches may 
store data for any persistent memory device.

You either have enough remaining power to flush the CPU caches or not.

Mikulas

> waste for the kernel to track and flush dirty cachelines for dax.
> Theoretically this could be done on a per-address range basis (think
> battery backing a subset of the system memory). I think we need to fix
> the routing to flush the same dax_device that ->direct_access() was
> invoked.
> 
> 
> > It should be also pointed out that for some uses of persistent memory it
> > is needed to flush only very small amount of data (such as 1 cacheline),
> > and it would be overkill if we go through that device mapper machinery for
> > a single flushed cache line.
> 
> I think this is more an argument to not enable DAX on that
> device-mapper topology if operation routing impacts performance. DAX
> is meant to get the kernel out of the way most of the time.
> 

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