On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:03:10PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: > Dragging this back up into the light... > > On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:49 -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote: > > Frank, I had a look at your patch. It leaves a lot to be desired, I was > > starting to clean it up but ultimately found myself agreeing with > > Alasdair's original point: that this policy should be implemented in the > > userspace daemon. > > I've found and fixed a couple of bugs but I would still like to know > what issues you had with the patch. As I said before, I would be more > than happy to clean it up. > > In the time since we had this discussion, by the way, we ran into a > problem that a userspace daemon can't solve: That of shutdown. We ran > into a number of failures in which systems were hung for hours. It > turned out that they were caused by a regular system shutdown. Our > backing store is network-based and networking was getting killed before > applications (as is usually the case), leaving I/O outstanding on the > device. Since queue_if_no_path was set, the I/O wasn't dumped and our > daemon was killed by shutdown very shortly thereafter so it couldn't > recover (otherwise it would have cleaned things up). > Was multipathd force killed? What was the default configuration parameter "queue_without_daemon" set to? If "queue_without_daemon" is set to "no", multipathd should disable queueing when it is stopped. This was added specifically to avoid this issue. -Ben > With those I/Os sitting queued in multipath, with no network and no > daemon to turn off queue_if_no_path, the systems just sat. When we > finally diagnosed this, we realized that the timeout would work > perfectly to solve the problem, automatically turning queue_if_no_path > off shortly after the network went away without depending on the > intervention of the no-longer-running daemon. > > So how do you guys deal with this failure scenario? > -- > Frank Mayhar > 310-460-4042 > > -- > dm-devel mailing list > dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel