On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:11:20PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: [snip] > I modified my report scripts to also output aggreagate iops numbers and > remove max-bandwidth and min-bandwidth numbers. So for same tests and same > results I am now reporting iops numbers also. ( I have not re-run the > tests.) > > IO scheduler controller + CFQ > ----------------------------------- > [Multiple Random Reader] [Sequential Reader] > nr Agg-bandw Max-latency Agg-iops nr Agg-bandw Max-latency Agg-iops > 1 223KB/s 132K usec 55 1 5551KB/s 129K usec 1387 > 2 190KB/s 154K usec 46 1 5718KB/s 122K usec 1429 > 4 445KB/s 208K usec 111 1 5909KB/s 116K usec 1477 > 8 158KB/s 2820 msec 36 1 5445KB/s 168K usec 1361 > 16 145KB/s 5963 msec 28 1 5418KB/s 164K usec 1354 > 32 139KB/s 12762 msec 23 1 5398KB/s 175K usec 1349 > > io-throttle + CFQ > ----------------------------------- > BW limit group1=10 MB/s BW limit group2=10 MB/s > [Multiple Random Reader] [Sequential Reader] > nr Agg-bandw Max-latency Agg-iops nr Agg-bandw Max-latency Agg-iops > 1 36KB/s 218K usec 9 1 8006KB/s 20529 usec 2001 > 2 360KB/s 228K usec 89 1 7475KB/s 33665 usec 1868 > 4 699KB/s 262K usec 173 1 6800KB/s 46224 usec 1700 > 8 573KB/s 1800K usec 139 1 2835KB/s 885K usec 708 > 16 294KB/s 3590 msec 68 1 437KB/s 1855K usec 109 > 32 980KB/s 2861K usec 230 1 1145KB/s 1952K usec 286 > > Note that in case of random reader groups, iops are really small. Few > thougts. > > - What should be the iops limit I should choose for the group. Lets say if > I choose "80", then things should be better for sequential reader group, > but just think of what will happen to random reader group. Especially, > if nature of workload in group1 changes to sequential. Group1 will > simply be killed. > > So yes, one can limit a group both by BW as well as iops-max, but this > requires you to know in advance exactly what workload is running in the > group. The moment workoload changes, these settings might have a very > bad effects. > > So my biggest concern with max-bwidth and max-iops limits is that how > will one configure the system for a dynamic environment. Think of two > virtual machines being used by two customers. At one point they might be > doing some copy operation and running sequential workload an later some > webserver or database query might be doing some random read operations. The main problem IMHO is how to accurately evaluate the cost of an IO operation. On rotational media for example the cost to read two distant blocks is not the same cost of reading two contiguous blocks (while on a flash/SSD drive the cost is probably the same). io-throttle tries to quantify the cost in absolute terms (iops and BW), but this is not enough to cover all the possible cases. For example, you could hit a physical disk limit, because you're doing a workload too seeky, even if the iops and BW numbers are low. > > - Notice the interesting case of 16 random readers. iops for random reader > group is really low, but still the throughput and iops of sequential > reader group is very bad. I suspect that at CFQ level, some kind of > mixup has taken place where we have not enabled idling for sequential > reader and disk became seek bound hence both the group are loosing. > (Just a guess) Yes, my guess is the same. I've re-run some of your tests using a SSD (a MOBI MTRON MSD-PATA3018-ZIF1), but changing few parameters: I used a larger block size for the sequential workload (there's no need to reduce the block size of the single reads if we suppose to read a lot of contiguous blocks). And for all the io-throttle tests I switched to noop scheduler (CFQ must be changed to be cgroup-aware before using it together with io-throttle, otherwise the result is that one simply breaks the logic of the other). === io-throttle settings === cgroup #1: max-bw 10MB/s, max-iops 2150 iop/s cgroup #1: max-bw 10MB/s, max-iops 2150 iop/s During the tests I used a larger block size for sequential readers, respect to the random readers: sequential-read: block size = 1MB random-read: block size = 4KB sequential-readers vs sequential-reader ======================================= [ cgroup #1 workload ] fio_args="--rw=read --bs=1M --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=N --direct=1" [ cgroup #2 workload ] fio_args="--rw=read --bs=1M --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=1 --direct=1" __2.6.32-rc5__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 36210KB/s 1 36992KB/s 2 47558KB/s 1 24479KB/s 4 57587KB/s 1 14809KB/s 8 64667KB/s 1 8393KB/s __2.6.32-rc5-io-throttle__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 10195KB/s 1 10193KB/s 2 10279KB/s 1 10276KB/s 4 10281KB/s 1 10277KB/s 8 10279KB/s 1 10277KB/s random-readers vs sequential-reader =================================== [ cgroup #1 workload ] fio_args="--rw=randread --bs=4k --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=N --direct=1" [ cgroup #2 workload ] fio_args="--rw=read --bs=1M --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=1 --direct=1" __2.6.32-rc5__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 4767KB/s 1 52819KB/s 2 5900KB/s 1 39788KB/s 4 7783KB/s 1 27966KB/s 8 9296KB/s 1 17606KB/s __2.6.32-rc5-io-throttle__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 8861KB/s 1 8886KB/s 2 8887KB/s 1 7578KB/s 4 8886KB/s 1 7271KB/s 8 8889KB/s 1 7489KB/s sequential-readers vs random-reader =================================== [ cgroup #1 workload ] fio_args="--rw=read --bs=1M --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=N --direct=1" [ cgroup #2 workload ] fio_args="--rw=randread --bs=4k --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=1 --direct=1" __2.6.32-rc5__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 54511KB/s 1 4865KB/s 2 70312KB/s 1 965KB/s 4 71543KB/s 1 484KB/s 8 72899KB/s 1 98KB/s __2.6.32-rc5-io-throttle__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 8875KB/s 1 8885KB/s 2 8884KB/s 1 8148KB/s 4 8886KB/s 1 7637KB/s 8 8886KB/s 1 7411KB/s random-readers vs random-reader =============================== [ cgroup #1 workload ] fio_args="--rw=randread --bs=4k --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=N --direct=1" [ cgroup #2 workload ] fio_args="--rw=randread --bs=4k --size=512M --runtime=30 --numjobs=1 --direct=1" __2.6.32-rc5__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 6141KB/s 1 6320KB/s 2 8567KB/s 1 3987KB/s 4 9783KB/s 1 2610KB/s 8 11067KB/s 1 1227KB/s __2.6.32-rc5-io-throttle__ [ cgroup #1 ] [ cgroup #2 ] tasks aggr-bw tasks aggr-bw 1 8883KB/s 1 8886KB/s 2 8888KB/s 1 7676KB/s 4 8887KB/s 1 7364KB/s 8 8884KB/s 1 7264KB/s With the SSD there's not a consistent degradation of cgroup #2 when we increase the tasks of the concurrent random readers in cgroup #1 (both in the random-vs-random or random-vs-sequential cases). We should better analyze the details (probably blktrace would help here), but it seems that in your tests the mix of CFQ and io-throttle generated a too seeky workload that caused the bad performance values of the sequential reader. -Andrea -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
