On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:46:31PM +0530, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote: > Hi Milan > > I was able to talk to Alasdair on Freenode#device-mapper and he is also of the > opinion full-barrier support is the way to go. > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Milan Broz <mbroz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Andi's patch is not complete and I think there can be several problems with > > it: > > > > - imagine DM device which has barrier support switched on by this simple > > patch and you try to run pvmove on it. How is the barrier request processed > > by underlying devices now? > > > > -> mapping can change online (pvmove, lvextend, lvconvert, ...) to more > > complicated mapping - who reset barrier flag support? > > > > I think these things will not create problems. Correct. > > > - what about stacking devices? Imagine crypto - there is one device per > > table possible under linear target (where you enable barriers by this > > patch). > > dm-crypt will need to implement some queue flushes to properly support > > barriers. Another example - partition mapping over multipath (kpartx), ... > > Are you sure that is it safe with Andi's patch? > > ... > > I do not have knowledge of dm-crypt, but yes, dm-crypt might possibly reorder. > Either they should flush the queues or atleast return -EOPNOTSUPP if we need > to use Andi's patch. That's already done because it doesn't call dm_table_support_barrier() on its target. Only the simple remapper does. All the scenarios you guys are describing (except for pvmove which just seems to be confused thinking) would happen when the ->barrier_supported target flag wasn't there, but it really is. > > It is dangerous to use that patch IMO, better not support barriers at all > > here. That's why we need something more robust. > > > > I understand the possible problems. Sorry, but Milan is just wrong on all of them as far as I know. -Andi -- ak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel