Oops.. > WHY A TIMEOUT - need a way for operator to abort the > freeze instead of "abort" I should have said "limit" because it is really proactive control (so they will not get called in the middle of the night by pissed users). I forgot to make it clear that TIMEOUT is the same as AUTO-THAW in logging errors so the adnin knows they have a bad snapshot and can do it again. I also forgot to say that our customers all say they can deal with retrying a snapshot, but not with unknown bad snapshots and most definitely not with killing their 24/7 operations! jim -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel