Hi Robin, On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 at 16:51, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In hindsight, there were some crucial subtleties overlooked when moving > {of,acpi}_dma_configure() to driver probe time to allow waiting for > IOMMU drivers with -EPROBE_DEFER, and these have become an > ever-increasing source of problems. The IOMMU API has some fundamental > assumptions that iommu_probe_device() is called for every device added > to the system, in the order in which they are added. Calling it in a > random order or not at all dependent on driver binding leads to > malformed groups, a potential lack of isolation for devices with no > driver, and all manner of unexpected concurrency and race conditions. > We've attempted to mitigate the latter with point-fix bodges like > iommu_probe_device_lock, but it's a losing battle and the time has come > to bite the bullet and address the true source of the problem instead. > > The crux of the matter is that the firmware parsing actually serves two > distinct purposes; one is identifying the IOMMU instance associated with > a device so we can check its availability, the second is actually > telling that instance about the relevant firmware-provided data for the > device. However the latter also depends on the former, and at the time > there was no good place to defer and retry that separately from the > availability check we also wanted for client driver probe. > > Nowadays, though, we have a proper notion of multiple IOMMU instances in > the core API itself, and each one gets a chance to probe its own devices > upon registration, so we can finally make that work as intended for > DT/IORT/VIOT platforms too. All we need is for iommu_probe_device() to > be able to run the iommu_fwspec machinery currently buried deep in the > wrong end of {of,acpi}_dma_configure(). Luckily it turns out to be > surprisingly straightforward to bootstrap this transformation by pretty > much just calling the same path twice. At client driver probe time, > dev->driver is obviously set; conversely at device_add(), or a > subsequent bus_iommu_probe(), any device waiting for an IOMMU really > should *not* have a driver already, so we can use that as a condition to > disambiguate the two cases, and avoid recursing back into the IOMMU core > at the wrong times. > > Obviously this isn't the nicest thing, but for now it gives us a > functional baseline to then unpick the layers in between without many > more awkward cross-subsystem patches. There are some minor side-effects > like dma_range_map potentially being created earlier, and some debug > prints being repeated, but these aren't significantly detrimental. Let's > make things work first, then deal with making them nice. > > With the basic flow finally in the right order again, the next step is > probably turning the bus->dma_configure paths inside-out, since all we > really need from bus code is its notion of which device and input ID(s) > to parse the common firmware properties with... > > Acked-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> # pci-driver.c > Acked-by: Rob Herring (Arm) <robh@xxxxxxxxxx> # of/device.c > Signed-off-by: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@xxxxxxx> Thanks for your patch, which is now commit bcb81ac6ae3c2ef9 ("iommu: Get DT/ACPI parsing into the proper probe path") in iommu/next. This patch triggers two issues on R-Car Gen3 platforms: 1. I am seeing a warning on Renesas Salvator-XS with R-Car M3N (but not on the similar board with R-Car H3), and only for SATA[1]. Unfortunately commit 73d2f10957f517e5 ("iommu: Don't warn prematurely about dodgy probes") does not help: ------------[ cut here ]------------ sata_rcar ee300000.sata: late IOMMU probe at driver bind, something fishy here! WARNING: CPU: 1 PID: 13 at drivers/iommu/iommu.c:571 __iommu_probe_device+0x208/0x38c Modules linked in: CPU: 1 UID: 0 PID: 13 Comm: kworker/u8:1 Not tainted 6.14.0-rc3-rcar3-00020-g73d2f10957f5-dirty #315 Hardware name: Renesas Salvator-X 2nd version board based on r8a77965 (DT) Workqueue: events_unbound deferred_probe_work_func pstate: 60400005 (nZCv daif +PAN -UAO -TCO -DIT -SSBS BTYPE=--) pc : __iommu_probe_device+0x208/0x38c lr : __iommu_probe_device+0x208/0x38c sp : ffffffc086da39a0 x29: ffffffc086da39b0 x28: 0000000000000000 x27: 0000000000000000 x26: 0000000000000001 x25: ffffffc080e0e0ae x24: ffffffc080e0e0bb x23: 0000000000000000 x22: ffffff800bd3d090 x21: ffffffc080acf680 x20: ffffff8008e8f780 x19: ffffff800aca8810 x18: 00000000e9f55e4c x17: 6874656d6f73202c x16: 646e696220726576 x15: 0720072007200720 x14: 0720072007200720 x13: 0720072007200720 x12: 0720072007200720 x11: 00000000000001ac x10: ffffffc086da3700 x9 : ffffffc083edb140 x8 : ffffffc086da3698 x7 : ffffffc086da36a0 x6 : 00000000fff7ffff x5 : c0000000fff7ffff x4 : 0000000000000000 x3 : 0000000000000001 x2 : 0000000000000000 x1 : 0000000000000000 x0 : ffffff80083d5380 Call trace: __iommu_probe_device+0x208/0x38c (P) iommu_probe_device+0x34/0x74 of_iommu_configure+0x128/0x200 of_dma_configure_id+0xdc/0x1d4 platform_dma_configure+0x48/0x6c really_probe+0xf0/0x260 __driver_probe_device+0xec/0x104 driver_probe_device+0x3c/0xc0 __device_attach_driver+0x58/0xcc bus_for_each_drv+0xb8/0xe0 __device_attach+0xdc/0x138 device_initial_probe+0x10/0x18 bus_probe_device+0x38/0xa0 deferred_probe_work_func+0xb4/0xcc process_scheduled_works+0x2e4/0x4a8 worker_thread+0x144/0x1cc kthread+0x188/0x198 ret_from_fork+0x10/0x20 irq event stamp: 49052 hardirqs last enabled at (49051): [<ffffffc0800fb6a8>] __up_console_sem+0x50/0x74 hardirqs last disabled at (49052): [<ffffffc0809eb65c>] el1_dbg+0x20/0x6c softirqs last enabled at (49046): [<ffffffc080096c50>] handle_softirqs+0x1b0/0x3b4 softirqs last disabled at (48839): [<ffffffc080010168>] __do_softirq+0x10/0x18 ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]--- I added debug prints to sata_rcar_probe(), and verified SATA is probed at about the same time on R-Car H3 and M3N, and the probe is never deferred. Do you have a clue? 2. The IOMMU driver's iommu_ops.of_xlate() callback is called about three times as much as before: +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fea27000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fea2f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fe950000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fe96f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fea27000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fea2f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform fe9af000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-fcp fe950000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-fcp fe96f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-fcp fea27000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-fcp fea2f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-fcp fe9af000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-dmac ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-dmac ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e7300000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e7310000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee100000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee140000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee160000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e7300000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e7310000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee100000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee140000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee160000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate +platform ee300000.sata: ipmmu_of_xlate sata_rcar ee300000.sata: ipmmu_of_xlate ravb e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate -renesas_sdhi_internal_dmac ee100000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate -renesas_sdhi_internal_dmac ee140000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate -renesas_sdhi_internal_dmac ee160000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-dmac e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-dmac e7300000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate rcar-dmac e7310000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate For some devices, it can be called up to 6 times. All of the duplicates happen before the device is bound (cfr. "platform" instead of the actual driver name): 6 platform ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 6 platform ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 3 platform e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate 3 platform e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform fea2f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform fea27000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform ee160000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform ee140000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform ee100000.mmc: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform e7310000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 2 platform e7300000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 platform fe9af000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 platform fe96f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 platform fe950000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 platform ee300000.sata: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 sata_rcar ee300000.sata: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-fcp fea2f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-fcp fea27000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-fcp fe9af000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-fcp fe96f000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-fcp fe950000.fcp: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-dmac ec720000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-dmac ec700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-dmac e7310000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-dmac e7300000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 rcar-dmac e6700000.dma-controller: ipmmu_of_xlate 1 ravb e6800000.ethernet: ipmmu_of_xlate Before, the callback was called just once for each DMA slave device. Is this intentional? Thanks! [1] SATA IOMMU on R-Car Gen3 needs an out-of-tree patch to add it to drivers/iommu/ipmmu-vmsa.c:devices_allowlist[]. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds