Re: [PATCH 1/1] RFC: dt bindings: Add property "brcm,gen3-eq-presets"

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On 10/29/2024 9:25 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:40:32AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 08:52:15PM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
On 10/29/2024 8:18 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:22:36AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 1:17 AM Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
<quic_krichai@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/29/2024 12:21 AM, James Quinlan wrote:
On 10/24/24 21:08, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
On 10/22/2024 12:33 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 02:22:45PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
Support configuration of the GEN3 preset equalization settings, aka the
Lane Equalization Control Register(s) of the Secondary PCI Express
Extended Capability.  These registers are of type HwInit/RsvdP and
typically set by FW.  In our case they are set by our RC host bridge
driver using internal registers.

Signed-off-by: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
---
    .../devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml       | 12
++++++++++++
    1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)

diff --git
a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
index 0925c520195a..f965ad57f32f 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
@@ -104,6 +104,18 @@ properties:
        minItems: 1
        maxItems: 3
    +  brcm,gen3-eq-presets:
+    description: |
+      A u16 array giving the GEN3 equilization presets, one for
each lane.
+      These values are destined for the 16bit registers known as the
+      Lane Equalization Control Register(s) of the Secondary PCI
Express
+      Extended Capability.  In the array, lane 0 is first term,
lane 1 next,
+      etc. The contents of the entries reflect what is necessary for
+      the current board and SoC, and the details of each preset are
+      described in Section 7.27.4 of the PCI base spec, Revision 3.0.

If these are defined by the PCIe spec, then why is it Broadcom specific
property?
Yes, I will remove the "brcm," prefix.

Hi Rob,

qcom pcie driver also needs to program these presets as you suggested
this can go to common pci bridge binding.

from PCIe spec 6.0.1 revision section 8.3.3.3 & 4.2.4.2 for data rates
of  8.0 GT/s, 16.0 GT/s, and 32.0 GT/s uses one class of preset (P0
through P10) and where as data rates of 64.0 GT/s use different class of
presets (Q0 through Q10) (Table 4-23). And data rates of 8.0 GT/s also
have optional preset hints (Table 4-24).

And there is possibility that for each data rate we may require
different preset configuration.

Can we have a dt binding for each data rate of 16 byte array.
like gen3-eq-preset array, gen4-eq-preset array etc.

Yes, that was the idea when using "genX-eq-preset", for X in {3,4...}.

Keep in mind that this is an RFC; I have a backlog of commit submissions
before I can submit the code that uses this DT property.  If you
(Krishna) want to submit something now I'd be quite happy to go with
that.  I don't believe it is acceptable to submit a bindings commit w/o
code that uses it (if I'm incorrect I'll be glad to do a V2).

I submitted a pull request for this. if you have any other suggestions
or if we need to have any other details we can update this pull request.
https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/pull/146

Thanks for doing this.   However, why a u8 array?  The registers are
defined as u16 so it would be more natural to use a u16 array, each
entry giving
all of the data for a single lane.  In our implementation we read a
u16 and we write it to the register -- what advantage is there by
using a u8 array?

Also if there are 16 lanes, you will need 32 maxItems, correct?

I added these questions to the github PR.

Also, why does it define gen3-eq-presets, gen4-eq-presets,
gen5-eq-presets, and gen6-eq-presets?  I think there's only a single
place to write these values (the Lane Equalization Control registers,
PCIe r6.0, sec 7.7.3.4), isn't here?  How would software choose the
correct values to use?
...

Oh, one more thing: I guess "gen3", "gen4", etc. are well-entrenched
terms in the industry, and they're probably fine in marketing
materials.

But I really don't like them in device trees or drivers because the
spec doesn't use those terms.  In fact, the spec specifically advises
*avoiding* them (PCIe r6.0, sec 1.2 footnote):

   Terms like “PCIe Gen3” are ambiguous and should be avoided. For
   example, “gen3” could mean (1) compliant with Base 3.0, (2)
   compliant with Base 3.1 (last revision of 3.x), (3) compliant with
   Base 3.0 and supporting 8.0 GT/s, (4) compliant with Base 3.0 or
   later and supporting 8.0 GT/s, ....

As a practical matter, those terms make it hard to use the spec: where
do I go to learn how to use "gen4-eq-presets"?  There's no instance of
"gen4" in the PCIe spec.  AFAICT, all I can do is look up the PCIe
r4.0 spec and try to figure out what was added in that revision, which
is a real hassle.

is it fine if I change names from gen3-eq-presets, gen4-eq-presets etc
to 8gts-eq-presets, 16gts-eq-presets  etc.

If above names are fine I will update the patch.

- Krishna Chaitanya.
Bjorn




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