Hi Krzysztof,
On 20:27 Tue 03 Sep , Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 03/09/2024 17:15, Andrea della Porta wrote:
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + rp1_clocks: clocks@c040018000 {
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do you mix MMIO with non-MMIO nodes? This really does not look
> >>>> correct.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Right. This is already under discussion here:
> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZtBzis5CzQMm8loh@apocalypse/
> >>>
> >>> IIUC you proposed to instantiate the non-MMIO nodes (the three clocks) by
> >>> using CLK_OF_DECLARE.
> >>
> >> Depends. Where are these clocks? Naming suggests they might not be even
> >> part of this device. But if these are part of the device, then why this
> >> is not a clock controller (if they are controllable) or even removed
> >> (because we do not represent internal clock tree in DTS).
> >
> > xosc is a crystal connected to the oscillator input of the RP1, so I would
> > consider it an external fixed-clock. If we were in the entire dts, I would have
> > put it in root under /clocks node, but here we're in the dtbo so I'm not sure
> > where else should I put it.
>
> But physically, on which PCB, where is this clock located?
xosc is a crystal, feeding the reference clock oscillator input pins of the RP1,
please see page 12 of the following document:
https://datasheets.raspberrypi.com/rp1/rp1-peripherals.pdf
On Rpi5, the PCB is the very same as the one on which the BCM2712 (SoC) and RP1
are soldered. Would you consider it external (since the crystal is outside the RP1)
or internal (since the oscillator feeded by the crystal is inside the RP1)?
>
> >
> > Regarding pclk and hclk, I'm still trying to understand where they come from.
> > If they are external clocks (since they are fixed-clock too), they should be
> > in the same node as xosc. CLK_OF_DECLARE does not seem to fit here because
>
> There is no such node as "/clocks" so do not focus on that. That's just
> placeholder but useless and it is inconsistent with other cases (e.g.
> regulators).
Fine, I beleve that the root node would be okay then, or some other carefully named
node in root, if the clock is not internal to any chip.
>
> If this is external oscillator then it is not part of RP1 and you cannot
> put it inside just to satisfy your drivers.
Ack.
>
> > there's no special management of these clocks, so no new clock definition is
> > needed.
>
> > If they are internal tree, I cannot simply get rid of them because rp1_eth node
> > references these two clocks (see clocks property), so they must be decalred
> > somewhere. Any hint about this?.
> >
>
> Describe the hardware. Show the diagram or schematics where is which device.
Unfortunately I don't have the documentation (schematics or other info) about
how these two clocks (pclk and hclk) are arranged, but I'm trying to get
some insight about that from various sources. While we're waiting for some
(hopefully) more certain info, I'd like to speculate a bit. I would say that
they both probably be either external (just like xosc), or generated internally
to the RP1:
If externals, I would place them in the same position as xosc, so root node
or some other node under root (eg.: /rp1-clocks)
If internals, I would leave them just where they are, i.e. inside the rp1 node
Does it make sense?
Many thnaks,
Andrea
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
>
