Quoting Lee Jones (2015-02-25 07:48:08) > On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Rob Herring wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mike Turquette <mturquette@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Quoting Lee Jones (2015-02-18 08:15:00) > > >> Much h/w contain clocks which if turned off would prove fatal. The > > >> only way to recover is to restart the board(s). This driver takes > > >> references to clocks which are required to be always-on in order to > > >> prevent the common clk framework from trying to turn them off during > > >> the clk_disabled_unused() procedure. > > > > [...] > > > > >> +static int ao_clock_domain_probe(struct platform_device *pdev) > > >> +{ > > >> + struct device_node *np = pdev->dev.of_node; > > >> + int nclks, i; > > >> + > > >> + nclks = of_count_phandle_with_args(np, "clocks", "#clock-cells"); > > > > > > Minor nitpick: please use of_clk_get_parent_count. I spent a solid 5 > > > minutes writing that function and I need people to use it so I can get a > > > return on my investment. > > > > > > Otherwise the patch looks good. I believe that this method is targeting > > > always-on clock in a production environment, which is different from the > > > CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED stuff which typically is helpful while bringing up new > > > hardware or dealing with a platform that has incomplete driver support. > > > > There is also the usecase of keep clocks on until I load a module that > > properly handles my hardware (e.g simplefb). We have a simplefb node > > with clocks and the simplefb driver jumps thru some hoops to hand-off > > clocks to the real driver. I don't really like it and don't want to > > see more examples. And there is the case of I thought I would never > > manage this clock, but kernel subsystems evolve and now I want to > > manage a clock. This should not require a DT update to do so. > > > > Neither of these may be Lee's usecase, but I want to see them covered > > by the binding. > > > > > I wonder if there is a clever way for existing clock providers > > > (expressed in DT) to use this without having to create a separate node > > > of clocks with the "always-on-clk-domain" flag. Possibly the common > > > clock binding could declare some always-on flag that is standardized? > > > Then the framework core could use this code easily. Not sure if that is > > > a good idea though... > > > > I would prefer to see the always on clocks just listed within the > > clock controller's node rather than creating made up nodes with clock > > properties. > > > This should be always-on until claimed IMO, but that > > aspect is the OS's problem, not a DT problem. > > I disagree with this point. There are likely to be many unclaimed, > but perfectly gateable clocks in a system, which will consume power > unnecessarily. The clk framework does the right thing by turning all > unclaimed clocks off IMHO. This only leaves a small use-case where we > need to artificially claim some which must not be gated. I might have misread both of your mails, but I think you two are actually in agreement. You both support a common property which lists the always-on clocks inside of the common clock binding, no? > > The other way to do is, as you mentioned is list the clocks which must > stay on in the clock source node, but this will still require a > binding. It will also require a much more complicated framework > driver. > > clkprovider@xxxxxxxx { > always-on-clks = <1, 2, 4, 5, 7>; > }; This should pose no burden on the driver. Since always-on-clks is in the common clock binding it should be handled by the framework core. At clk_register-time we can check for always-on-clks, walk the list and see if we have a match. It's ugly O(n^2) but it works. Thoughts? Mike > -- > Lee Jones > Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead > Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs > Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html