On 04/04/2024 17:28, Kalle Valo wrote: > Marc Gonzalez wrote: > >> On 04/04/2024 13:57, Kalle Valo wrote: >> >>> Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: >>> >>>> I'd say, we should take a step back and actually verify how this was >>>> handled in the vendor kernel. >>> >>> One comment related to this: usually vendor driver and firmware branches >>> go "hand in hand", meaning that a version of driver supports only one >>> specific firmware branch. And there can be a lot of branches. So even if >>> one branch might have a check for something specific, there are no >>> guarantees what the other N+1 branches do :/ >> >> The consequences and ramifications of the above comment are not clear to me. >> >> Does this mean: >> "It is pointless to analyze a given version (or even several versions) >> of the vendor driver downstream, because there are exist a large number >> of variations of the code." ? > > I was trying to say that because the design philosophy between vendor > drivers and upstream drivers is very different, we can't 100% trust > vendor drivers. It's a very good idea to check what vendor drivers do > but we just need to be careful before making any conclusions. Testing > real hardware (and corresponding firmware) is the most reliable way to > know how different products/firmware work, unfortunately. > >> And thus, "it is nonsensical to try to "align" the mainline driver to >> "the" vendor driver, as there is no single "vendor driver"" ? > > No no, I'm not saying that. I have suffered this "N+1 different firmware > branches behaving slighly differently" problem since ath6kl days so for > me this is business as usual, sadly. I'm sure we can find a solution for > ath10k. Hello Kalle, I can spin a v3, no problem. Do you prefer: Option A = never waiting for the MSA_READY indicator for ANYONE Option B = not waiting for the MSA_READY indicator when qcom,no-msa-ready-indicator is defined Option C = not waiting for the MSA_READY indicator for certain platforms (based on root compatible) Option D = some other solution not yet discussed Dmitry has tested Option A on 5 platforms, where it does not induce regressions. I worked on msm8998, where Option A (or any equivalent) unbreaks WiFi. Please provide guidance :) Regards