Hi, Boris
Thanks a lot for your explanation, check my reply for more description
for my suggestion.
On 2/3/2015 5:37 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:46:15 +0800
Josh Wu <josh.wu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, Boris, Brian
On 2/2/2015 5:42 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
Hi Brian,
On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 23:57:37 -0800
Brian Norris <computersforpeace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Boris,
BTW, this series has a few conflicts with other things I have queued, so
you'll need to refresh.
Yes, that's not a problem, but I'd like to be sure this is the way we
want to go before rebasing this series.
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 11:30:12PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
The NAND and NFC (NAND Flash Controller) were linked together with a
parent <-> child relationship.
This model has several drawbacks:
- it does not allow for multiple NAND chip handling while the controller
support multi-chip (even though the driver is not ready yet)
- it mixes NAND partitions and NFC nodes at the same level (which is a bit
disturbing)
I agree that this is disturbing. (FWIW, it also seems a bit disturbing
that atmel_nand.c actually registers two different drivers and the tries
to synchronize them; this seems like it could be handled better, but I'm
not sure how at the moment.)
Yep, that's my feeling too, but I'm not sure how this could/should be
done.
My problem here is that the pinmux should be requested by the EBI
device because the EBI manages several type of devices and the data and
address signals are shared by all the devices, hence the idea of
defining the nand chip node under the EBI node.
In the other hand, the NFC is not part of the EBI bus, and thus should
not be defined under the EBI node.
This might lead to the NFC device being probed before the NAND chip,
hence the need for this synchronization.
OMHO, there is another way, which is change the NFC node to many NFC
properties, just like PMECC.
As NFC, PMECC or hamming ecc HW could be part of current NAND node (in
sama5, HSMC maybe a better name for this node. )
And this change can avoid the sync problem and avoid two drivers in
atmel_nand.c.
Sorry I don't get it...
You gave a pseudo DT example in your following answers but I still
don't understand how you'll link the NFC and its associated NAND chips.
- the introduction of the EBI bus implies defining NAND chips under the
EBI node, and the ranges available under the EBI node should be
restricted to EBI address space, while the NFC references several
registers outside of these EBI ranges.
That's an interesting bit. I've actually run across this sort of problem
on other SoCs, where we have a relationship between two pieces of
hardware--the NAND chip and the NAND controller--where the former might
be on one bus (like your EBI bus, with chip selects), and the latter is
part of the top-level MMIO register space.
But can you elaborate here a bit more? Does the NAND chip actually need
to be represented under your EBI bus?
Yes, as said above this is all about pinmux conflicts, the NAND
controller has to request the appropriate pinmux for its NAND chips but
it will conflict with the pinmux requested by the EBI bus (data and
address signals are shared by all the devices connected on the EBI).
Move the NFC node outside of the NAND node, to get a more future-proof
model.
I'm curious if an alternative solution might work, maybe one like the
Allwiner NAND (sunxi-nand) DT, which just reverses the roles; the 'NFC'
is the parent of the NAND chip(s). We've seen this pattern in other
contexts too.
I also prefer this. Then the dt node should looks like finally:
nand (SMC may be more correct) node {
This nand node contains nand chip nodes, so 'nand' is definitely not
the appropriate name for this node.
We could name it SMC, but I'd like to keep EBI (External Bus
Interface), because the only thing that can register child devices in
linux are busses (or MFD devices :-)).
The SMC (Static Memory Controller) is just a additional control logic
acting on top of the EBI.
After further thought, It seems the SMC should be correct name for nand
chips' parent.
Before SAMA5 chips, the PMECC/ECC registers address is out of SMC address.
In SAMA5 chips, the PMECC/NFC-hw registers address is in SMC address.
take sama5d3 for example:
NFC regs: 0xffffc000 0x00000070
PMECC regs: 0xffffc070 0x00000490
PMECC error regs: 0xffffc500 0x00000100
And the HSMC regs is: 0xffffc000 0x00000700
which include PMECC/NFC-hw registers.
PMECC properties
NFC properties --> we can make the NFC not a node, just many NFC
properties.
But all NAND chips will have to point to the same nfc struct, and I'd
rather represent the NFC IP in the DT than hide it into the driver's
logic.
Moreover, the NFC IP is not part of the EBI memory range, so I'd prefer
to keep it outside of the EBI node (though I'm not sure you're trying to
represent the EBI bus here).
pinctrl-nand0
nand chip 0: {
partitions...
}
pinctrl-nand1
nand chip 1: {
partitions...
}
}
Could you give a real DT example instead of a pseudo DT representation,
maybe I'll understand what you're suggesting then.
I would have preferred this solution too, but the EBI/pinmux constraint
explained above prevents this approach.
I am not very clear about the pinmux constraint.
Maybe we just leave one DT node (either EBI or current nand node) to
take care the pins.
What I can do though, is reverse the referencing: reference nand chips
from the nand controller node.
I guess the dt looks like: (correct me if I am wrong)
EBI node {
pinctrl-nand0
nand chip 0: {
partitions...
}
pinctrl-nand1
nand chip 1: {
partitions...
}
}
Well, that's more someting like:
ebi@xxxx {
pinctrl-0 = <&ebi_data_bus_pins &ebi_addr_bus_pins
&ebi_nand_cs0_pin &ebi_nand_rb0_pin ...>;
nand@0,xxxx {
/* ../ */
};
nand@1,xxxx {
/* ../ */
}
}
well, so nand driver should be probed after this ebi node probed, since
ebi will configure the nand pins.
There should be a sync issue to solve. or maybe I miss something?
nand (SMC/HSMC may be more correct) node {
PMECC properties
NFC properties --> we can make the NFC not a node, just many NFC
properties.
&nand chip0
&nand chip1
}
Okay, I guess I understand what you were talking about in your previous
suggestion, and I'm not a big fan of this representation.
The SMC IP provides a set of registers to configure external devices
timings (and other related stuff).
Here you're representing NAND chip devices under the SMC node, which is
not exactly how I would represent them.
The IP controlling the available NAND chips is actually the NFC (NAND
Flash Controller).
How about this representation instead ?
nfc@xxxxx {
nand-chips = <&nand0 &nand1>;
}
This should be ok, but this nfc@xxxxx should be a logic block. As the
real NFC hardware only appeared since SAMA5 chips.
And we can disabled it. Without the real hardware NFC the nand should
also works well.
Josh, could you rework your proposal with a real DT representation so
that I'll be sure to understand what you're suggesting ?
Okay, first I prefer to remove the atmel_nand_nfc driver, the work that
be done in atmel_nand_nfc_probe() function will move to atmel_nand_probe().
The dt should looks like:
nand0: nand@80000000 {
compatible = "atmel,sama5d4-nand", "atmel,at91rm9200-nand";
#address-cells = <1>;
#size-cells = <1>;
ranges;
reg = < 0x80000000 0x08000000 /* EBI CS3 */
0xfc05c070 0x00000490 /* SMC PMECC regs */
0xfc05c500 0x00000100 /* SMC PMECC Error Location
regs */
0x90000000 0x08000000 /* NFC Command Registers */
0xfc05c000 0x00000070 /* NFC HSMC regs */
0x00100000 0x00100000 /* NFC SRAM banks */
>;
interrupts = <22 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH 6>;
atmel,nand-addr-offset = <21>;
atmel,nand-cmd-offset = <22>;
atmel,nand-has-dma;
pinctrl-names = "default";
pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_nand>;
status = "disabled";
clocks = <&hsmc_clk>;
atmel,write-by-sram;
};
The &hsmc_clk & atmel,write-by-sram will move to uplayer.
And the hardware NFC can be disabled in menuconfig some options. or add
some dt properties like atmel,enable-nfc.
Then we can make use of EBI/SMC node,
nfc@xxxxx {
compatible = "atmel,sama5d4-nand", "atmel,at91rm9200-nand";
#address-cells = <1>;
#size-cells = <1>;
ranges;
reg = <
0xfc05c070 0x00000490 /* SMC PMECC regs */
0xfc05c500 0x00000100 /* SMC PMECC Error Location
regs */
0xfc05c000 0x00000070 /* NFC HSMC regs */
/* all above address will be overlay with smc regs, maybe we
can use it from smc? */
0x00100000 0x00100000 /* NFC SRAM banks */
0x90000000 0x08000000 /* NFC Command Registers */
>;
interrupts = <22 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH 6>;
atmel,nand-addr-offset = <21>;
atmel,nand-cmd-offset = <22>;
atmel,nand-has-dma;
clocks = <&hsmc_clk>; /* needed for all smc components, like
pmecc, nfc hardware */
atmel,nfc-disabled; /* disabled hw NFC */
atmel,nfc-write-by-sram;
status = "disabled";
nand-chips = <&nand0 &nand1>;
}
I am not familiar with the EBI/SMC dt node, so above should have errors,
but it's just a draft for us to discuss.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Boris
Best Regards,
Josh Wu
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