Re: [PATCH 1/1] arm: dts: Enable device-tree overlay support for sun8i-h3 pi devices

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On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 00:12 +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> Dne sreda, 19. julij 2023 ob 14:26:13 CEST je Moessbauer Felix
> napisal(a):
> > On Tue, 2023-07-11 at 21:42 +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> > > Dne torek, 27. junij 2023 ob 15:37:03 CEST je Felix Moessbauer
> > > 
> > > napisal(a):
> > > > Add the '-@' DTC option for the sun8i-h3 pi-class devices. This
> > > > option
> > > > populates the '__symbols__' node that contains all the
> > > > necessary
> > > > symbols
> > > > for supporting device-tree overlays (for instance from the
> > > > firmware
> > > > or
> > > > the bootloader) on these devices.
> > > > 
> > > > These devices allow various modules to be connected and this
> > > > enables
> > > > users to create out-of-tree device-tree overlays for these
> > > > modules.
> > > > 
> > > > Please note that this change does increase the size of the
> > > > resulting DTB
> > > > by ~30%. For example, with v6.4 increase in size is as follows:
> > > > 
> > > > 22909 -> 29564 sun8i-h3-orangepi-lite.dtb
> > > > 24214 -> 30935 sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus.dtb
> > > > 23915 -> 30664 sun8i-h3-nanopi-m1-plus.dtb
> > > > 22969 -> 29537 sun8i-h3-nanopi-m1.dtb
> > > > 24157 -> 30836 sun8i-h3-nanopi-duo2.dtb
> > > > 24110 -> 30845 sun8i-h3-orangepi-plus2e.dtb
> > > > 23472 -> 30037 sun8i-h3-orangepi-one.dtb
> > > > 24600 -> 31410 sun8i-h3-orangepi-plus.dtb
> > > > 23618 -> 30230 sun8i-h3-orangepi-2.dtb
> > > > 22170 -> 28548 sun8i-h3-orangepi-zero-plus2.dtb
> > > > 23258 -> 29795 sun8i-h3-nanopi-neo-air.dtb
> > > > 23113 -> 29699 sun8i-h3-zeropi.dtb
> > > > 22803 -> 29270 sun8i-h3-nanopi-neo.dtb
> > > > 24674 -> 31318 sun8i-h3-nanopi-r1.dtb
> > > > 23477 -> 30038 sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc.dtb
> > > > 24622 -> 31380 sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus-v1.2.dtb
> > > > 23750 -> 30366 sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc-plus.dtb
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > ---
> > > > Please note that I only tested the overlay on the sun8i-h3-
> > > > nanopi-
> > > > neo
> > > > device. However, the devices are quite similar and in general
> > > > the
> > > > change to add symbols should be pretty safe. Similar patches
> > > > have
> > > > been
> > > > applied to various other devices in the past without any
> > > > negative
> > > > effect (except for the increased size).
> > > 
> > > I'm not a fan of this approach. What's wrong with letting kernel
> > > builders
> > > specify this flag on their own at compile time? That way size is
> > > still
> > > completely in domain of builder.
> > 
> > That's easier said than done. These symbols are only needed for
> > some
> > targets (that are commonly used with overlays). But how should a
> > general purpose kernel builder like Debian know which DT to build
> > with
> > symbols and which without? In Yocto the overlays are not really
> > needed,
> > as often the original dts is just patched directly.
> 
> LibreELEC (distro I help with) has support for DT overlays for some
> time and 
> it was easy to enable symbols for all DTs with simple "DTC_FLAGS=-@"
> addition 

Thanks for the pointer. If this would be a kconfig option, I would
agree. There's a patch to add this option, but this did not get
accepted [3]. Just manually adding some "magic" options does not feel
correct.

> to build command [1]. Do you see any downside except knowing you have
> to 
> include it? On the upside, there is no need to patch each and every
> file and 
> kernel builder has a choice if overlays should be supported or not.

There is a similar feature request for Debian, but without a decision
yet [4]. I just cross-referenced it to this thread.

> Note that 
> in some cases overlays can be needed even in the case when board
> doesn't have 
> expansion ports.

If that is the case, why can't we at least add the patch from [3] and
provide the distros an easy option to enable overlays? Once integrated,
we can eventually get rid of all the per-device patches in the kernel.

Best regards,
Felix

[3] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg4252361.html
[4] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=910727

> 
> Best regards,
> Jernej
> 
> [1]
> https://github.com/LibreELEC/LibreELEC.tv/blob/master/packages/linux/
> package.mk#L213
> 
> > 
> > There has been a discussion in 2017 to improve the situation in
> > general, but without any final decision or implementation [1]. By
> > that,
> > these patches got more and more common. I recently sent a very
> > similar
> > patch for a riscv board that got accepted [2].
> > 
> > IMHO it is better to have these patches in the kernel instead of
> > carrying different variants of this in each Linux distro. IMHO, the
> > board vendors themselves should add this when they add a board.
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1502831736-28282-1-git-send-email-trini@konsulk
> > o.com/ [2]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20230627080620.329873-1-felix.moess
> > bauer@xxxxxxxxxxx/
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Felix
> > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jernej
> > > 
> > > > Felix Moessbauer
> > > > Siemens AG
> > > > 
> > > >  arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner/Makefile | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner/Makefile
> > > > b/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner/Makefile index
> > > > 589a1ce1120a..eebb5a0c873a
> > > > 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner/Makefile
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/allwinner/Makefile
> > > > @@ -179,6 +179,25 @@ dtb-$(CONFIG_MACH_SUN7I) += \
> > > >         sun7i-a20-pcduino3-nano.dtb \
> > > >         sun7i-a20-wexler-tab7200.dtb \
> > > >         sun7i-a20-wits-pro-a20-dkt.dtb
> > > > +
> > > > +# Enables support for device-tree overlays for all pis
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-lite := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-m1-plus := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-m1 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-duo2 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-plus2e := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-one := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-plus := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-2 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-zero-plus2 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-neo-air := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-zeropi := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-neo := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-nanopi-r1 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-bananapi-m2-plus-v1.2 := -@
> > > > +DTC_FLAGS_sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc-plus := -@
> > > >  dtb-$(CONFIG_MACH_SUN8I) += \
> > > >         sun8i-a23-evb.dtb \
> > > >         sun8i-a23-gt90h-v4.dtb \
> 
> 
> 
> 





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