On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 08:41:15AM -0400, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 19/10/2022 16:21, Melody Olvera wrote: > > On 10/15/2022 6:28 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > >> On 14/10/2022 18:11, Melody Olvera wrote: > >> [...] > >>> + clocks { > >>> + xo_board: xo-board { > >>> + compatible = "fixed-clock"; > >>> + clock-frequency = <19200000>; > >> Both clocks are not a property of a SoC. They are provided by the board, > >> so they should either be defined by board DTS or at least their > >> frequency must be provided by the board. > > That doesn't seem in keeping with precedent.... the sm8* series all have the clocks in > > the dtsi. These are common to the boards anyways. > > Because people do not pay attention what is part of SoC, what is part of > board. DTSI is for the SoC and these are inputs to the SoC. > (Just chiming in because I had this thought already a few times when you suggested moving the XO "clock-frequency" to the board DTS:) I understand your reasoning for moving components of the board to the board DTS, but IMHO adding just the clock-frequency to the board DTS is even more misleading: It suggests that there are functional board designs where you would use a XO clock with a different clock-frequency. Is that really realistic though? There are assumptions about the XO clock frequency in a lot of places: You would need to fully rewrite the gcc-<SoC>.c driver because it has fixed multipliers/dividers for one specific XO frequency. All firmware binaries would likely need changes. And does the hardware even support a different XO clock frequency? The APQ8016E datasheet for example strictly documents a XO clock input of 19.2 MHz and a sleep clock of 32.768 kHz. IMHO the only realistic variation of the XO clock setup would be to have a physical "fixed-clock" with a higher frequency, followed by a "fixed-factor-clock" that brings it back to the expected frequency. To model that properly it is not enough to have just the "clock-frequency" in the board DTS. In this case you need two clock nodes, and the xo_board would be the "fixed-factor-clock". Therefore it should be all or nothing IMO: Either we move the full xo-board node to the board DTS (which allows alternatively defining the "fixed-factor-clock" or whatever). Or we assume that there will be always an input clock signal with the fixed frequency and keep it fully in the SoC .dtsi. Having just the "clock-frequency" in the board DTS puts the attention on the wrong detail, IMO. :) Thanks, Stephan