On 16/08/2022 12:25, Jernej Škrabec wrote: > Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 11:12:05 CEST je Heiko Stübner napisal(a): >> Am Dienstag, 16. August 2022, 09:49:58 CEST schrieb Jernej Škrabec: >>> Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 09:41:45 CEST je Krzysztof Kozlowski > napisal(a): >>>> On 15/08/2022 08:08, Samuel Holland wrote: >>>>> + >>>>> + de: display-engine { >>>>> + compatible = "allwinner,sun20i-d1-display-engine"; >>>>> + allwinner,pipelines = <&mixer0>, <&mixer1>; >>>>> + status = "disabled"; >>>>> + }; >>>>> + >>>>> + osc24M: osc24M-clk { >>>> >>>> lowercase >>>> >>>>> + compatible = "fixed-clock"; >>>>> + clock-frequency = <24000000>; >>>> >>>> This is a property of the board, not SoC. >>> >>> SoC needs 24 MHz oscillator for correct operation, so each and every board >>> has it. Having it here simplifies board DT files. >> >> I guess the oscillator is a separate component on each board, right? > > Correct. > >> And DT obvious is meant to describe the hardware - independently from >> implementation-specific choices. > > There is no choice in this case. 24 MHz crystal has to be present. > > FWIW, including crystal node in SoC specific DTSI is already common pattern in > Allwinner ARM SoC DTSI files. > >> >> Starting to discuss which exceptions to allow then might lead to even more >> exceptions. >> >> Also having to look for a board-component in the soc dtsi also is surprising >> if one gets to the party later on :-) . > > As I said, if one is accustomed to Allwinner ARM DT development, it would be > more surprising to include 24 MHz crystal node in each and every board DT. It's same everywhere. Allwinner, Exynos, iMX, Qualcomm. Everywhere this is a part of the board, so even if oscillator frequency is fixed (as in 99% of cases although some SoCs I think might just allow to implement one of few), still this is a property of the board. Because: 1. DTSI describes the SoC part, not board. 2. So the DTS developer is a bit more conscious about his design. Keeping things in SoC DTSI just because it simplifies DTS is not correct IMHO. So again - like in several other cases - minimum the frequency is property of the board, not the SoC DTSI. Everywhere. Allwinner is not special to receive exceptions. Best regards, Krzysztof