On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 01:30:32 -0500 Samuel Holland <samuel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Samuel, > Hi Andre, Jernej, > > On 7/6/22 8:16 AM, Andre Przywara wrote: > > so after seemingly having finished writing this email, I realised that > > this won't really help, as I think this diverts the discussion. And the > > problem has been around for a while, and won't probably be solved easily > > or quickly. I think we agree to disagree here, or we should admit that > > there are different approaches ("bundled firmware" vs. "UEFI"), so in the > > interest of not blocking the H616 series: > > > > Shall I just keep the firmware node? This would work both ways, whereas > > dropping the node would impede the "bundled firmware" approach? > > Let me try to sum up the relevant portion of my thoughts (and save the rest for > elsewhere): > > The only reason to add the reserved-memory node is to support externally-loaded > DTBs. By adding the node, we are committing to support externally-loaded DTBs on > this SoC. > > Upgrading the kernel is not allowed to break boot. If we support > externally-loaded DTBs, that rule extends to DTBs shipped with the kernel. > > If we remove the reserved-memory node, the combination of old U-Boot + new > externally-loaded DTB will stop booting (the kernel version is irrelevant). > Therefore, if we add the node, we can never remove it, full stop. Well, this all depends on the initial commitment to support externally-loaded DTBs. I don't think we need to make this promise, I'd rather see this as a concession to people doing so *right now*, and for the sheer practicality of using this DT until we merge it into U-Boot. > I will (begrudgingly) accept that, as long as the node matches what TF-A > actually generates today. That means, please: > - Drop the label and update the node name I will drop the label. For the node name: the binding does not enforce it, but asks that "node names should reflect the purpose", so I went with "secmon", as used by other platforms. I will send a patch to TF-A to fix it there instead. If you disagree, feel free to fix this up before committing. > - Reduce the size to 256 KiB, matching (BL31_LIMIT - BL31_BASE) Verified in TF-A and changed. I also added a short comment explaining the situation. Feel free to amend this if needed. Many thanks for the discussion and for resolving this. I much appreciate your flexibility and pragmatism in this matter! Cheers, Andre