Hi again, On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:37:50PM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:39:34AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:15:53AM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 02:23:38PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 24 September 2014 19:29:05 Peter Chen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So, it is IP CORE LIB (you suggest) vs IP CORE Platform Driver > > > > > (dwc3, musb, chipidea) you are talking about, right? Except for > > > > > creating another platform driver as well as related DT node (optional), > > > > > are there any advantages compared to current IP core driver structure? > > > > > > > > Having a library module usually requires less code, and is more > > > > consistent with other drivers, which helps new developers understand > > > > what the driver is doing. > > > > > > I beg to differ. You end-up having to pass function pointers through > > > platform_data to handle differences which could be handled by the core > > > IP. > > > > > > > The most important aspect though is the DT binding: once the structure > > > > with separate kernel drivers leaks out into the DT format, you can't > > > > easily change the driver any more, e.g. to make a property that was > > > > introduced for one glue driver more general so it can get handled by > > > > the common part. Having a single node lets us convert to the library > > > > model later, so that would be a strong reason to keep the DT binding > > > > simple, without child nodes. > > > > > > > > Following that logic, it turns into another reason for using the library > > > > model to start with, because otherwise the child device does not have > > > > any DT properties itself and has to rely on the parent device properties, > > > > which somewhat complicates the driver structure. > > > > > > this is bullcrap. Take a look at > > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt: > > > > > > synopsys DWC3 CORE > > > > > > DWC3- USB3 CONTROLLER > > > > > > Required properties: > > > - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3" > > > - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device > > > - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller. > > > > > > Optional properties: > > > - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device. The first element > > > in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and > > > the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY > > > - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings > > > - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings > > > - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated. > > > > > > This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected. > > > > > > dwc3@4a030000 { > > > compatible = "snps,dwc3"; > > > reg = <0x4a030000 0xcfff>; > > > interrupts = <0 92 4> > > > usb-phy = <&usb2_phy>, <&usb3,phy>; > > > tx-fifo-resize; > > > }; > > > > > > This contains all the attributes it needs to work. In fact, this could > > > be used without any glue. > > > > > > > If you want to add "vbus-supply" core node to support ID switch, what's > > the plan for that? > > send a patch ? Just make sure it's optional because not everybody needs > a vbus-supply. Also, DRD will still take a few merge windows to become a > reality. I don't want to merge something before considering it carefuly, > otherwise we will having which is broken and doesn't work for everybody > ;-) > > > Is it possible that the glue layer needs to access core register > > (eg, portsc.phcd during suspend)? The wrapper IP may wait some signals > > at core IP to change. > > why would a glue layer need to access registers from the core ? That > sounds very odd. I haven't seen that and will, definitely, NACK such a > patch :-) > > can you further describe why you think a glue layer might need to access > core IP's registers ? I just realised we're talking about chipidea here... in any case, it's still valid to ask why would glue need to fiddle with core IP's registers. -- balbi
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