On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:39:32AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:19:19PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 08:19:00PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote: > > > Am 21.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Thierry Reding: > > > > > > > Anyway, those are all fairly standard reasons for where deferred probe > > > > triggers, and since I do like deferred probe for it's simplicity and > > > > reliability I'd rather not try to work around it if boot time is all > > > > that people are concerned about. > > > > > > It's neither simple nor reliable. It's non deterministic brutforcing > > > while making it almost impossible to identify real errors. > > > > It's horrible, yes. > > > > > In my humble opinion the worst way to solve something. I'm pretty sure > > > if I would have suggest such a solution, the maintainer crowd would have > > > eaten me without cooking. > > > > We didn't have a better workable solution at the time. > > You make it sound like we've come up with a better workable solution in > the meantime. That wasn't the intention, but my sloppy wording does make it come across that way. > > Having a hack that got boards booting was considered better than not > > having them boot. > > I don't remember people being particularly enthralled by the idea. > > Odd, I remember things quite differently. Then perhaps my memory is faulty. :) > Anyway, instead of going back and forth between "deferred probe is good" > and "deferred probe is bad", how about we do something useful now and > concentrate on how to make use of the information we have in DT with the > goal to reduce the number of cases where deferred probing is required? Certainly. Mark. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html