Hi Paul, > Am 01.12.2021 um 15:03 schrieb Paul Cercueil <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Hi Nikolaus, Mark, > > Le mer., déc. 1 2021 at 14:51:51 +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : >> Hi, >>> Am 01.12.2021 um 14:39 schrieb Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 01:02:45PM +0000, Paul Cercueil wrote: >>>> Le mar., nov. 30 2021 at 22:26:37 +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller >>>>> + regulator = devm_regulator_get_optional(&pdev->dev, "hdmi-5v"); >>>>> + if (IS_ERR(regulator)) { >>>>> + ret = PTR_ERR(regulator); >>> Why is this using _optional()? This should only be done when the supply >>> can be physically absent >> There can be +5V for HDMI but without a regulator that is visible to or controllable >> by the driver. > > There is always a power supply though. Either a controllable one (through e.g. a GPIO), or it's just connected to the mains +5V; the pin is never left floating. In the second case, in DTS the "hdmi-5v" would be connected to some 5v regulator, even if it's just a dummy VCC-5V regulator. So Mark has a point. > >> So hdmi-5v can be simply missing in DTS in which case the driver does not need to >> care about. The driver just can't turn it on or off. > > Please make it mandatory in DTS then, and use devm_regulator_get() in the driver. Well, I just wonder why the elegant devm_regulator_get_optional() exists at all and seems to be used in ca. 80 places. And if it is not allowed, why some DTS should be forced to add not physically existing dummy-regulators. AFAIR drivers should implement functionality defined by DTS but not the other way round: enforce DTS style. BTW: there is no +5 mains dummy regulator defined in ci20.dts. What I fear is that if we always have to define the mains +5V (which is for example not defined in ci20.dts), which rules stops us from asking to add a dummy-regulator from 110/230V to +5V as well. In last consequence, it seems as if we have to describe all dummy regulators from the power plant to our hdmi-5v :) Since I always follow the KISS principle I tend to leave out what is not relevant... Of course adding a dummy regulator to the DTS allows to avoid the NULL pointer test in the driver code. Anyways, you are maintainers :) So should I spin a v11 for the series or just this patch or how should we do it? BR and thanks, Nikolaus > > Cheers, > -Paul > >>> (in which case I'd expect to see special >>> handling). >> The special case is to not enable/disable the regulator if it does not exist >> and assume that there is hardware providing it otherwise (the driver can't know >> that except by using get_optional). This is done by the code below >>>>> + if (IS_ERR(regulator)) { >> ... >>> + if (!regulator) >>> + return 0; >>> + ret = regulator_enable(regulator); >> ... >> BR and thanks, >> Nikolaus > >