Hei hei, Am Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:43:09PM +0200 schrieb Marek Behún: > On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:29:18 +0200 > Pavel Machek <pavel@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > Some RJ-45 connectors have LEDs wired in the following way: > > > > > > LED1 > > > +--|>|--+ > > > | | > > > A---+--|<|--+---B > > > LED2 > > > > > > With + on A and - on B, LED1 is ON and LED2 is OFF. Inverting the > > > polarity turns LED1 OFF and LED2 ON. > > > > > > So these LEDs exclude each other. > > > > > > Add new `excludes` property to the LED binding. The property is a > > > phandle-array to all the other LEDs that are excluded by this LED. > > > > I don't think this belongs to the LED binding. > > > > This is controller limitation, and the driver handling the controller > > needs to know about it... so it does not need to learn that from the > > LED binding. > > It's not necessarily a controller limitation, rather a limitation of > the board (or ethernet connector, in the case of LEDs on an ethernet > connector). Such LEDs are not limited to PHYs or ethernet connectors. There is hardware with such dual color LEDs connected to GPIO pins (either directly to the SoC or through some GPIO expander like an 74hc595 shift register). That mail points to such hardware: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-leds/msg11847.html I asked about how this can be modelled back in 2019 and it was also discussed last year: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-leds/msg11665.html https://lore.kernel.org/linux-leds/2315048.uTtSMl1LR1@ada/ The "solution" back when I first asked was treating them as ordinary GPIO-LEDs and ignore the "exclusion topic" which means in practice the LED goes OFF if both pins are ON (high) at the same time, which works well enough in practice. > But I guess we could instead document this property in the ethernet PHY > controller binding for a given PHY. Because such LEDs are not restricted to ethernet PHYs, but can also be used with GPIOs from the hardware point of view, I would not put it there. Furthermore I would not view this as a restriction of the gpio-leds controller, but it's a property of the LEDs itself or the way they are wired to the board. This could (or should as Pavel suggested back in 2019) be put to a new driver, at least for the GPIO case, but it would need some kind of new binding anyways. With that in mind I consider the proposed binding to be well comprehensible for a human reader/writer. I'm sorry, I did not have leisure time to implement such a driver yet. Breadboard hardware for that still waiting in the drawer. :-/ Greets Alex
