Hello Sudeep and all, On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:52, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Sumit, > > I was holding off you reply as I didn't have all the background on this. > Achin did mention that this is preparatory work for FFA notifications. > I did mention to him that this is more than that, it is custom extension > to address what FF-A notification is trying to in standard way. > > I share same opinion as Marc Z. > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:22:23AM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:16, Marc Zyngier <maz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > I don't care about OP-TEE. If you are proposing a contract between S > > > and NS, it has to be TEE and OS independent. That's how the > > > architecture works. > > > > > > > Agree, here we are not proposing a common contract among the S and NS > > world that every TEE (based on Arm TrustZone) will use to communicate > > with REE (Linux in our case) but rather an OP-TEE specific > > notifications feature that is built on top of OP-TEE specific ABIs. > > > > And I can see your arguments coming from an FFA perspective but there > > are platforms like the ones based on Armv7 which don't support FFA > > ABI. Maybe Jens can elaborate how this feature will fit in when FFA > > comes into picture? > > > > I can understand that but won't those platforms add the support both in > the kernel(current series) and secure world to address notifications. > While you could argue that it is small extension to what is already present > but I prefer they support FF-A is they need such a support instead of adding > custom mechanisms. It is hard to maintain and each vendor will deviate > from this custom mechanism and soon we will have bunch of them to handle. There exist armv7-a platforms that expect OP-TEE notification support and will not move the FF-A, like the stm32mp15. This platform won't move to FF-A mainly due to the memory cost of the added SPM layer and the device physical constraints. We have a usecase for OP-TEE notification. We're working on the integration of an SCMI server in OP-TEE. SCMI notification is a feature needed is this scope and it requires OP-TEE async notification means as those proposed here. This OP-TEE async notif also brings a lot of value in OP-TEE as it allows a OP-TEE secure thread (i.e. executing a trusted application service) to gently wait on a secure interrupt (as a slow bus transaction completion or many other usecase) with the CPU relaxed. This support is provided by the proposed series. I believe existing device should be able to leverage this OP-TEE feature without needing their OP-TEE to move to the new FF-A interface. Regards, Etienne > > [...] ST Restricted
